U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S.
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 04-17-2016, 11:52 AM
 
Location: West of the Rockies
1,112 posts, read 1,871,070 times
Reputation: 1086

Advertisements

According to this article, the Irish DNA is from the Mid East and East Europe: https://www.theguardian.com/science/...t-dna-confirms

This one claims English people are mostly French and German: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...-no-trace.html
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 04-17-2016, 01:07 PM
 
1,068 posts, read 736,229 times
Reputation: 1025
Rubbish , the British and Irish were the original hunter gatherers , not Celtic ( Saxonwold is sloppy), as Celtic is actually a romantic linguistic Victoria invention , Celts were also Germanic Austrian. Brits are not Germanic or Celtic
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-19-2016, 04:26 PM
 
Location: United State
427 posts, read 243,909 times
Reputation: 343
There a large undercut in the 2000 and 2010 census when it comes to English Ancestry and the 1980 and 1990 census back this up.

in the 1980 census there just barley more people with English Ancestry then German Ancestry (nearly tied) reported then suddenly in 1990 there 17 Million more people with Germans Ancestry then English, Make no sense. Now there suppsidely 30 million more Americans with German ancestry.

I say in reality despite what the 1990, 2000 and 2010 census say I tihnk German and English ancestry they run very close together and there probably a little more English Ancestry in this country then German.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-20-2016, 03:06 PM
 
4,690 posts, read 8,602,561 times
Reputation: 1011
Quote:
Originally Posted by England Dan View Post
Rubbish , the British and Irish were the original hunter gatherers , not Celtic ( Saxonwold is sloppy), as Celtic is actually a romantic linguistic Victoria invention , Celts were also Germanic Austrian. Brits are not Germanic or Celtic
You are the one who is sloppy!!! British are both Germanic and Celtic, both language groups were and still are spoken by the people of the British Isles. Celtic speech still survive in some regions of the Celtic Fringe, though was erased by force by the Germanic oppression of the English over the Welsh and the Scottish as well. I guess that oppresion is still fresh in the minds of many Scots. Celts aren't a Victorian invention, you probably wished that, but for your information Celts at one point dominated Central and Western Europe including Austria of course and it was from there that they came to the British Isles, well before the Romans and Anglo-Saxons even arrived. This is why there is Irish Gaelic, Scottish Gaelic, Welsh and now extinct Cornish. The Brittonic people spoke languages very similar to Welsh and they were Celts.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-20-2016, 03:09 PM
 
4,690 posts, read 8,602,561 times
Reputation: 1011
Quote:
Originally Posted by skidamarink View Post
According to this article, the Irish DNA is from the Mid East and East Europe: https://www.theguardian.com/science/...t-dna-confirms

This one claims English people are mostly French and German: English genomes share German and French DNA while Romans and Vikings left no trace | Daily Mail Online
Enough if you read perfectly the study about the Irish. You'll find out that modern Irish populations are genetically closest to the Bronze Age populations which originally came from Eastern Europe (Indo-Europeans). While the Neolithic Irish farmers were similar to Southern Europeans and Middle-Easterners who brought farming and agriculture to Europe.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-20-2016, 05:41 PM
 
350 posts, read 607,865 times
Reputation: 352
Quote:
Originally Posted by NorthwestResident View Post
There a large undercut in the 2000 and 2010 census when it comes to English Ancestry and the 1980 and 1990 census back this up.

in the 1980 census there just barley more people with English Ancestry then German Ancestry (nearly tied) reported then suddenly in 1990 there 17 Million more people with Germans Ancestry then English, Make no sense. Now there suppsidely 30 million more Americans with German ancestry.

I say in reality despite what the 1990, 2000 and 2010 census say I tihnk German and English ancestry they run very close together and there probably a little more English Ancestry in this country then German.
Exactly, also a thing that people forget it's that many African American have European ancestry (around 17 %) and it's usually English/British origin.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-20-2016, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Center City, Philadelphia
4,633 posts, read 2,782,951 times
Reputation: 2981
Quote:
Originally Posted by saxonwold View Post
You are the one who is sloppy!!! British are both Germanic and Celtic, both language groups were and still are spoken by the people of the British Isles. Celtic speech still survive in some regions of the Celtic Fringe, though was erased by force by the Germanic oppression of the English over the Welsh and the Scottish as well. I guess that oppresion is still fresh in the minds of many Scots. Celts aren't a Victorian invention, you probably wished that, but for your information Celts at one point dominated Central and Western Europe including Austria of course and it was from there that they came to the British Isles, well before the Romans and Anglo-Saxons even arrived. This is why there is Irish Gaelic, Scottish Gaelic, Welsh and now extinct Cornish. The Brittonic people spoke languages very similar to Welsh and they were Celts.
Quote:
Originally Posted by saxonwold View Post
Enough if you read perfectly the study about the Irish. You'll find out that modern Irish populations are genetically closest to the Bronze Age populations which originally came from Eastern Europe (Indo-Europeans). While the Neolithic Irish farmers were similar to Southern Europeans and Middle-Easterners who brought farming and agriculture to Europe.
This might be the two most interesting posts I have ever read on this site. Europe fascinates me.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-20-2016, 07:43 PM
 
4,690 posts, read 8,602,561 times
Reputation: 1011
Quote:
Originally Posted by England Dan View Post
The English and lowland Scots are not effing Germanic u might be, just watched Leicester supporters the yoke of England and they look Welsh and Northern Irish no different , the Germanic/Teutonic empire ends in Hamburg just move on
Sure they are! The creation of the English nation was done by the descendants of Anglo-Saxons. Without Germanic people, there is no England or Wales, just Britain. Wales was also called so, it meant "land of foreigners" in old Anglo-Saxon speech. Welsh meant foreigner, they were seen as such by invading Germanic Saxons. Lowland Scotland was part of the Anglian kingdom called Northumbria, from there arose many Anglo-Saxon missionaries who were sent to convert the Frisians and other Germanic tribes of Germany to Christianity. Northumbria was a wealthy Anglo-Saxon kingdom. While the Highland Scots remained Gaelic and are genetically closest to Northern Irish folks. Lowland Scotland including Edinburgh has the highest percentage for blue-eyed people in the British Isles
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-20-2016, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Dothan AL
1,450 posts, read 876,506 times
Reputation: 991
Quote:
Originally Posted by NorthwestResident View Post
There a large undercut in the 2000 and 2010 census when it comes to English Ancestry and the 1980 and 1990 census back this up.

in the 1980 census there just barley more people with English Ancestry then German Ancestry (nearly tied) reported then suddenly in 1990 there 17 Million more people with Germans Ancestry then English, Make no sense. Now there suppsidely 30 million more Americans with German ancestry.

I say in reality despite what the 1990, 2000 and 2010 census say I tihnk German and English ancestry they run very close together and there probably a little more English Ancestry in this country then German.
For some reason, maybe the war, many persons of greater German ancestry, with some English ancestry, would say they were English, but now say they are German.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-20-2016, 08:07 PM
 
1,112 posts, read 695,578 times
Reputation: 396
German. A lot of Germans came to the US in the centuries leading up to WWI and their descendants formed a solid population in the Midwest. English ancestry mostly comes from or near colonial times and places where whites often report English ancestry is limited to parts of northern New England and the coastal South. Then again, there are a lot of people calling themselves "American" in Appalachia...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S.
Similar Threads
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

2005-2019, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top