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Old 04-20-2016, 08:12 PM
 
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Sure they are! The creation of the English nation was done by the descendants of Anglo-Saxons. Without Germanic people, there is no England or Wales, just Britain. Wales was also called so, it meant "land of foreigners" in old Anglo-Saxon speech. Welsh meant foreigner, they were seen as such by invading Germanic Saxons. Lowland Scotland was part of the Anglian kingdom called Northumbria, from there arose many Anglo-Saxon missionaries who were sent to convert the Frisians and other Germanic tribes of Germany to Christianity. Northumbria was a wealthy Anglo-Saxon kingdom. While the Highland Scots remained Gaelic and are genetically closest to Northern Irish folks. Lowland Scotland including Edinburgh has the highest percentage for blue-eyed people in the British Isles
Hence the name "Saxony" referring to a region in Germany.
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Old 04-20-2016, 08:13 PM
 
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and in much of the upper South
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Old 04-20-2016, 08:18 PM
 
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Correct! Many people are ignorant! They keep on forgetting the largest ancestry group in the United States of America, beautiful land of ours is German-American which is also the largest White ethnic group.
According a 2013 report I am reading there were then 49,206,934 German-Americans. The largest wave of Germans immigrants coming to America was in the 19th century, due to civil unrest and high unemployment in their own country. Many integrated and anglicized their names to sound more English and avoid subtle discrimination they might have faced.
Irish-Americans are the second largest 35,523,082. There a mass exodus between the 1820 to the 1920's to the U.S. approximately 4.5 million Irish came to live in America. Many Irish faced also discrimination because of their Catholic faith in a country which strongly favored Protestantism. The "red hair" stereotype came because a large part of the Irish people came from the southwest of Ireland, which is one of the most red-headed parts of Ireland (nearly 40% carry the red hair gene). Today in terms of numbers, America has the largest population of people who are naturally red-haired in the world, but not percentage-wise.
English-Americans are the third largest at 26,923,091. This was the dominating group for a long time, due to the fact that the original 13 American colonies from where America sprang out of were chiefly settled by the English. The original American laws have their foundations in the English law.
There are also a group of Whites who classify only as Americans, especially in the South, due to the fact they are most likely not able to trace their lineages correctly. Most of these people have British Isles or other Northwestern European ancestry (German, Dutch, Scandinavian) This group comes at 19,911,467.
Other major groups of Whites are Italians, Polish, French (not Basques!), Scottish and so on.
The South in the US would be just British Isles, and largely Protestant. It's pretty monolithic..
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Old 04-21-2016, 04:36 PM
 
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The South in the US would be just British Isles, and largely Protestant. It's pretty monolithic..
Perhaps British Isles combined, but not predominantly English. States which have the highest percentages of English ancestry are more in the West and North-east.
These are the "most Anglo-Saxon" states in terms of % by ancestry in America, by rank.

1.) Utah
2.) Maine
3.) Vermont
4.) Idaho
5.) New Hampshire
6.) Wyoming
7.) Oregon
8.) Montana
9.) Delaware
10.) Colorado
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Old 04-21-2016, 05:04 PM
 
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Hence the name "Saxony" referring to a region in Germany.
Sure Saxony is the name of a Germanic people who are originally from northwestern Germany in the regions called now Lower Saxony(Niedersachsen). However the region now called Saxony in Germany is not the original Old Saxons who invaded the Netherlands and eastern Britain. The region which you referring as Saxony was inhabitated by Slavic-speaking tribes (Sorbian people), but was later conquered by Germanic-speaking Saxons and Thuringi, thus later claimed by the Duke of Saxony. Thus we have there Germanic-Slavic admixture. Saxons in Germany are not "purely Germanic" by any means, they mixed with Baltic, Finnic, Polabian Slavs, Pomeranian West Slavs.
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Old 04-21-2016, 05:34 PM
 
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Hence the name "Saxony" referring to a region in Germany.
The name for Englishman/Lowland Scots (Non-Gaelic) in Scottish Gaelic is Sassenagh ("meaning Saxon") and for England in Gaelic also means Saxony. Irish Gaels also used Sasanach (Saxon), the Welsh word Seisnig (Saxon), the Cornish Sawznek (Saxon) for the English people. So the connection between Germanic people and the English is undeniable, perhaps quite ignorant to deny.
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Old 04-21-2016, 05:50 PM
 
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Perhaps British Isles combined, but not predominantly English. States which have the highest percentages of English ancestry are more in the West and North-east.
These are the "most Anglo-Saxon" states in terms of % by ancestry in America, by rank.

1.) Utah
2.) Maine
3.) Vermont
4.) Idaho
5.) New Hampshire
6.) Wyoming
7.) Oregon
8.) Montana
9.) Delaware
10.) Colorado
English has always been the largest ancestry among southerners since colonial era not just British Isles combined, nowadays most of these people consider themselves American ancestry.

Here is the states where English was the largest ancestry in 1980:

1) Utah: 54 %
2) Maine: 40,4 %
3) Idaho: 36,8 %
4) Vermont: 34,8 %
5) Kentucky: 34,2 %
6) New Hampshire:
7) Virginia: 31,7 %
8) Tennessee: 31,3 %
9) West Virginia: 30,7 %
10) North Carolina: 30,2 %

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I know things have changed since 1980 and their percentages is much lower now but I think it's still a good indicator to know where most people of English descent are. Their percentages is lower than the West and New England because the south also has a large percentages of African Americans but I think their number is greater.
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Old 04-21-2016, 07:03 PM
 
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Germans, Irish, English, Scottish, Dutch, Danish and Norwegian people all look very similar, I wonder if anyone could tell the differences simply by looking at their facial features?
True, they are very similar, only with slight differences.
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Old 04-21-2016, 07:18 PM
 
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English has always been the largest ancestry among southerners since colonial era not just British Isles combined, nowadays most of these people consider themselves American ancestry.

Here is the states where English was the largest ancestry in 1980:

1) Utah: 54 %
2) Maine: 40,4 %
3) Idaho: 36,8 %
4) Vermont: 34,8 %
5) Kentucky: 34,2 %
6) New Hampshire:
7) Virginia: 31,7 %
8) Tennessee: 31,3 %
9) West Virginia: 30,7 %
10) North Carolina: 30,2 %

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I know things have changed since 1980 and their percentages is much lower now but I think it's still a good indicator to know where most people of English descent are. Their percentages is lower than the West and New England because the south also has a large percentages of African Americans but I think their number is greater.
In my reference, I am referring to Whites not other groups. People of English ancestry have always been more numerous in the North-East and the West. Utah and Idaho are in the West for your information and Maine, Vermont are in the North-East. In the south, you have the English with Scots, Scots-Irish/Northern Irish, Welsh ancestry together will form a majority, but also the French (especially Louisiana), Spaniards (actually the first White people to settle Florida, plenty of Germans in the Carolinas. Those who identify as American ethnic do this due to multiple ancestries, of which English could be one of them but not their sole ancestry.
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Old 04-21-2016, 10:38 PM
 
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Holy Tiger Beat!

England was settled/invaded by Germanic tribes on top of a Celtic population. ( Angles and Saxons (Anglo-Saxon) were German). And then there were the Vikings who came and settled as well. The Norse also settled in France, Normandy and William the conquerer came in 1066. You could find pictures of Norweigans that look similar as well.

Speaking of genetic markers, the British Isles ( Great Britain and Ireland to be clear) share many genetic markers with Spain and Portugal surprisingly. Galicia in Northern Spain is one of the 7 Celtic Nations.
No, they don't. The genetical contribution from Iberia in the British/Irish populations is minimal and of no significant importance (POBI PROJECT). Though it was exaggerated by some due to the high frequency of the R1b Y-haplogroup. However, now we know that there are various subclades of R1b in Europe and the most common R1b subclade in the British Isles is the R1b-L21 brought by the Atlantic Celtic branch, which is older than the most common R1b suclade in Iberia and southwest France which the R1b-DF27 the Gascon-Iberian branch.
Phenotypically the most common eye color in Britain is blue (ScotlandsDNA PROJECT 2014) with an overall average of nearly 50%. While the most common eye color in Spain by far is brown with an average of 75.25%! Big difference! At least a third of Brits are also carriers of red hair gene, which is not the case with Iberians!
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