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Old 07-19-2010, 12:30 AM
 
Location: Southern Minnesota
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Really, you're only saying that because you're from Wisconsin. The areas that you named are part of the Great Lakes/Rust Belt area, and have nothing to do with the Upper Midwest. Minnesota IS the center of the Upper Midwest. The Upper Midwest is the area that is MSP and Minnesota centric - The Dakotas, Western and northern Wisconsin, and the U.P. of Michigan (maybe the northern LP as well). The Rust Belt is NOT Upper Midwest. I know Wisconsin is Minnesota's rival, but why do you have to try to take this from us?

Also, there's nothing foreign about Canada. Arkansas is much more "foreign" than Canada.
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Old 07-19-2010, 01:16 AM
 
Location: Lower East Side, Milwaukee, WI
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Really, you're only saying that because you're from Wisconsin. The areas that you named are part of the Great Lakes/Rust Belt area, and have nothing to do with the Upper Midwest. Minnesota IS the center of the Upper Midwest. The Upper Midwest is the area that is MSP and Minnesota centric - The Dakotas, Western and northern Wisconsin, and the U.P. of Michigan (maybe the northern LP as well). The Rust Belt is NOT Upper Midwest. I know Wisconsin is Minnesota's rival, but why do you have to try to take this from us?

Also, there's nothing foreign about Canada. Arkansas is much more "foreign" than Canada.
First of all, nobody's trying to take anything from you. You have yet to clearly define what it means to be part of the Upper Midwest. Is it geography? Is it culture? What is it?

Geographically, MN is a transitional state, much of it very plains-y. For instance, only 28.9% of MN is covered by forests vs. 51.2% in MI and 45.2% in WI.

Culturally, MSP is very different from the rest of MN, whereas WI is pretty progressive across the board. Madison, WI is the liberal epicenter of the Midwest. Ironically, or perhaps not (white flight), the most conservative area of WI is suburban Milwaukee.

FYI, the Rust Belt is socioeconomic region that stretches from the Upper Midwest (Duluth, MN) to the Mid-Atlantic (Rochester, NY).

Lastly, can you please tell me what similarities ND or SD has with WI or MI?
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Old 07-19-2010, 07:24 AM
 
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Well, the Kansas City metro area has a number of Catholic mega churches in the suburbs. Those from Olathe tend to be ultra conservative and more evangelical with very large families.
Well consider many Catholic parishes can have over 5000 parishoners to more than 10000. I wouldn't doubt that they are conservative, but I see most often tend to be less so when compared to Evangelicals.

Although what definition of Evangelical is being applied to Catholics since it may or may not be the same meaning as it applies to Protestants.
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Old 07-19-2010, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Colorado
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Growing up in Ohio (between Cleveland and Toledo), I've neither heard nor referred to my home as the Midwest. It has always been the Great Lakes. Now granted, I don't know what someone from Columbus or Cincinnati would say.

Anyway, I agree that the so-called 12 state "Midwest" region should be either broken up into different regions or renamed.

Interesting note: Youngstown, Ohio is geographically further east than Savannah, Georgia (on the Atlantic Coast).
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Old 07-19-2010, 09:36 AM
 
Location: MINNESOTA
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Minnesota is the great North. period. You all can keep the midwest. We're the North. We're the northern most of the lower 48. We're the coldest
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Old 07-19-2010, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Southern Minnesota
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Minnesota is the great North. period. You all can keep the midwest. We're the North. We're the northern most of the lower 48. We're the coldest
I'll take that. The Great North. Group us with Alaska.
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Old 07-19-2010, 12:25 PM
 
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Minnesota is the great North. period. You all can keep the midwest. We're the North. We're the northern most of the lower 48. We're the coldest
"Midwestern " is also "northern"....The North consists of both the Northeast and the Midwest....period.
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Old 07-19-2010, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Shawnee, KS
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KC is mid-western and STL is split between mid-western and southern, so MO is kinda 50-50 on the southern mid-western scale
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Old 07-19-2010, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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STL is split between mid-western and southern
Nope, not even.
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Old 07-19-2010, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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Well, the Kansas City metro area has a number of Catholic mega churches in the suburbs. Those from Olathe tend to be ultra conservative and more evangelical with very large families.
Not quite sure what you are trying to say?
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