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Old 07-22-2010, 12:55 AM
 
Location: Southwest Washington
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We have more rights Genius. We have more freedom of speech, he don't have single-payer, we don't have as high taxes as they do.

Canada not Socialist? Stop drinking the kool-aid.
Haha... We have more rights? What rights are you talking about? We do not have more rights than people in Canada do. We literally do no not have more rights. We do not have more freedom than they do. Healthcare has been socialized, like in EVERY OTHER FREE, DEVELOPED COUNTRY, and you are right that we don't pay as much in taxes, but we still end up paying in other ways (i.e. more expensive healthcare costs). So it doesn't mean we are more free, just because we have less taxes... We just end up paying for it out of pocket instead, and we are still governed by the almighty dollar. It's all about the corporations. They've got us and our government in a headlock. I don't call that "free."

America is obviously doing something wrong if there are more millionaires than ever before, yet our unemployment rate is the highest it's been since the Great Depression, and record numbers of people are totally destitute, impoverished, hungry, homeless, etc. At least Canada, as a society, takes better care of its citizens.
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Old 07-22-2010, 02:10 AM
 
Location: Phoenix Arizona
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Invade Canada.Burn all Maple trees.
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Old 07-26-2010, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Soon to be Southlake, TX
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Haha... We have more rights? What rights are you talking about? We do not have more rights than people in Canada do. We literally do no not have more rights. We do not have more freedom than they do. Healthcare has been socialized, like in EVERY OTHER FREE, DEVELOPED COUNTRY, and you are right that we don't pay as much in taxes, but we still end up paying in other ways (i.e. more expensive healthcare costs). So it doesn't mean we are more free, just because we have less taxes... We just end up paying for it out of pocket instead, and we are still governed by the almighty dollar. It's all about the corporations. They've got us and our government in a headlock. I don't call that "free."

America is obviously doing something wrong if there are more millionaires than ever before, yet our unemployment rate is the highest it's been since the Great Depression, and record numbers of people are totally destitute, impoverished, hungry, homeless, etc. At least Canada, as a society, takes better care of its citizens.
Those same exact socialist countries you are praising are also in an economic meltdown. Europe is no good, Canada is not either, the world economy is horrible right now. Texas is Republican and booming and Hong Kong has extremely low taxes and is booming. NY and CA both have ridiculously high taxes and are hitting rock bottom right now. And as a business owner myself, if anything it is HIGH taxes that will RAISE unemployment. The higher you tax me the more people I will lay off. And shut up with that liberal groaning already, those evil corportations arghhh! Give me a break. It is those liberal governments who feed off power knowing the majority of Americans are not making over $250k a year and knowing they will get more votes because of that... then give the minorities and poor all the benefits and keep getting voted in because of it. Democrats have the poor eating out of the palm of their hands because the poor need Democrats in order to receive more benefits. Why do you think cities are always blue? Because they are full of poor, lazy, entitled bums spending government checks on drugs and alcohol. And believe me there are ways for them to use food stamps to buy drugs. And the ones NOT buying drugs and alcohol with food stamps are not buying bread, milk, and vegetables they are buying Twinkies. I am good friends with a store owner who has to, but does not want to, check out EBT recipients and 99% of them spend 90% of their benefits on unnecessary garbage such as like I said Twinkies and potato chips. Of course you liberals are too soaked up in your own little inexperienced happy go lucky world to know anything about that. You will just polish the problems up and hide them like Canada does, giving them free handouts while my workers bust their tail off to put food on the table for their family. Those "poor people" had every opportunity to go to school every day, do their homework and graduate just like I did yet so many of them were too lazy to do that and instead play victim to society now that they are complete bums. And forget the health care, there were programs in place before Obama's little scheme came into play that helped people who could not afford health care. I know because my uncle was on it when he was unemployed for a almost a year.

The only experience you clearly have is watching the television set and reading your little articles. I grew up in poverty in Brooklyn and now operate a business I have experienced life on both sides of the table so do not even think about attacking my experiences in life. America was founded on less government, and Texas is carrying that out more than CA and look who is faring better liberal CA or conservative TX? If you hate the fact that America is a private country then move to your little "utopia" that is Europe. It is nice that you recognize problems in the world though. But there is nothing you can do about it and there is nothing I can do about it. I would much rather donate my money to a charity of my choice than to have the government tell me they are taking this much money and giving it to who they want.

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Old 07-26-2010, 11:17 AM
 
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America would be exactly like Canada if America was only Minnesota. Canada has it easy. They have a very homogeneous, small population that makes everyone feel like they "love their neighbor", so it's easy to get along and govern the country. It's easy to do that in a country with 30 million mostly white people. Down here in the USA we have a lot more people and a lot more issues to deal with. Canada would be exactly like us if they had our population.
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Old 07-28-2010, 01:13 AM
 
Location: DC
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America would be exactly like Canada if America was only Minnesota. Canada has it easy. They have a very homogeneous, small population that makes everyone feel like they "love their neighbor", so it's easy to get along and govern the country. It's easy to do that in a country with 30 million mostly white people. Down here in the USA we have a lot more people and a lot more issues to deal with. Canada would be exactly like us if they had our population.
uhhhh ever been to Toronto? its more diverse than ANY american city! Only Queens, NY can compete. OH, and Toronto is still uber-safe....and awesome.
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Old 07-28-2010, 02:37 PM
 
Location: MINNESOTA
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^^^ That still doesn't change the fact that for the most part Canada is homegeneous...

I agree that Minnnesota Culture is almost more similar to Ontario and Manitoba than let's say Florida or Louisianna's.
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Old 07-29-2010, 05:41 AM
 
Location: 304
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Haha... We have more rights? What rights are you talking about? We do not have more rights than people in Canada do. We literally do no not have more rights. We do not have more freedom than they do. Healthcare has been socialized, like in EVERY OTHER FREE, DEVELOPED COUNTRY, and you are right that we don't pay as much in taxes, but we still end up paying in other ways (i.e. more expensive healthcare costs). So it doesn't mean we are more free, just because we have less taxes... We just end up paying for it out of pocket instead, and we are still governed by the almighty dollar. It's all about the corporations. They've got us and our government in a headlock. I don't call that "free."

America is obviously doing something wrong if there are more millionaires than ever before, yet our unemployment rate is the highest it's been since the Great Depression, and record numbers of people are totally destitute, impoverished, hungry, homeless, etc. At least Canada, as a society, takes better care of its citizens.
Are you serious

any system where a government has the option to not give you health care, is Horrible

Canadians don't have nearly the choices we have here, which is not freedom
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Old 07-29-2010, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Californ-eye-aye
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The US and Canada are culturally very similar but are also culturally very different. In my frequent visits to Vancouver I can't help but notice how diverse the city is, and I'm from the San Francisco Bay Area. We tend to think of California as diverse because we have visible Hispanic populations, various Asian populations, and visible East Indian populations. But Vancouver's diversity is very different. Vancouver has much more of a mosaic of different cultures - a little bit of everybody. Not only do you see Hispanics, East Indians and a variety of Asians, you also see a variety of European cultures and the people tend to hold closer to their culture in dress, language, behavior, and simply the way they carry themselves.

Often it can be difficult for me to tell immigrant residents from tourists in Vancouver. You meet resident Australians, Germans, Brits, Russians, Spaniards, Dutch South Africans, etc. etc. Sure, they're all "white", but they don't carry themselves the same way, and they certainly don't carry themselves like Americans. That's where Vancouver wins in diversity.
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Old 07-29-2010, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Californ-eye-aye
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Are you serious

any system where a government has the option to not give you health care, is Horrible

Canadians don't have nearly the choices we have here, which is not freedom
I know people who cannot work because they're on disability, and struggle with the challenging decision of paying their medical bills or giving up their homes.

I'd rather have a health care system that I can count on, than have choices that I can't afford.
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Old 07-29-2010, 02:36 PM
 
Location: 304
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I know people who cannot work because they're on disability, and struggle with the challenging decision of paying their medical bills or giving up their homes.

I'd rather have a health care system that I can count on, than have choices that I can't afford.
Why would you want your tax payer money going to fix Aunt Helga's Smoking Problem, or some dumb ass who hurt his or herself driving drunk

When everyone pays, and everyone has the same access, the system becomes over crampt and health care declines

It is like trying to feed the entire country at the same time. The quanity has to go up, and as a result the QUALITY goes down. Service becomes more complex and people are lost in the system.

In Canada, you have to wait for health care. And there isn't nearly as many people up there.
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