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Old 07-29-2010, 04:08 PM
 
Location: United Kingdom
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Those same exact socialist countries you are praising are also in an economic meltdown. Europe is no good, Canada is not either, the world economy is horrible right now. Texas is Republican and booming and Hong Kong has extremely low taxes and is booming. NY and CA both have ridiculously high taxes and are hitting rock bottom right now. And as a business owner myself, if anything it is HIGH taxes that will RAISE unemployment. The higher you tax me the more people I will lay off. And shut up with that liberal groaning already, those evil corportations arghhh! Give me a break. It is those liberal governments who feed off power knowing the majority of Americans are not making over $250k a year and knowing they will get more votes because of that... then give the minorities and poor all the benefits and keep getting voted in because of it. Democrats have the poor eating out of the palm of their hands because the poor need Democrats in order to receive more benefits. Why do you think cities are always blue? Because they are full of poor, lazy, entitled bums spending government checks on drugs and alcohol. And believe me there are ways for them to use food stamps to buy drugs. And the ones NOT buying drugs and alcohol with food stamps are not buying bread, milk, and vegetables they are buying Twinkies. I am good friends with a store owner who has to, but does not want to, check out EBT recipients and 99% of them spend 90% of their benefits on unnecessary garbage such as like I said Twinkies and potato chips. Of course you liberals are too soaked up in your own little inexperienced happy go lucky world to know anything about that. You will just polish the problems up and hide them like Canada does, giving them free handouts while my workers bust their tail off to put food on the table for their family. Those "poor people" had every opportunity to go to school every day, do their homework and graduate just like I did yet so many of them were too lazy to do that and instead play victim to society now that they are complete bums. And forget the health care, there were programs in place before Obama's little scheme came into play that helped people who could not afford health care. I know because my uncle was on it when he was unemployed for a almost a year.

The only experience you clearly have is watching the television set and reading your little articles. I grew up in poverty in Brooklyn and now operate a business I have experienced life on both sides of the table so do not even think about attacking my experiences in life. America was founded on less government, and Texas is carrying that out more than CA and look who is faring better liberal CA or conservative TX? If you hate the fact that America is a private country then move to your little "utopia" that is Europe. It is nice that you recognize problems in the world though. But there is nothing you can do about it and there is nothing I can do about it. I would much rather donate my money to a charity of my choice than to have the government tell me they are taking this much money and giving it to who they want.
Wow very nice post my friend

Now back to the thread topic.

Canada is a great country, which Iíve visited several times. But like mentioned you canít really compare it to the USA . Population difference alone changes quite a few factors.

One major difference between the USA and our Canadian friends. Is that of freedom of speech as mentioned by others already. Iím a firm believer in freedom of speech, and less government.

Hereís a good article, on that subject that shows just how crazy itís gotten up there.
Say Anything Ľ The State Of Free Speech In Canada Is Not Good
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Old 07-29-2010, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Being that our Revolution got us out from under the British Empire, I suppose it might be more accurate to say that the U.S. is more of a Bizarro Britain.
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Old 07-29-2010, 09:39 PM
 
Location: MINNESOTA
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What are some differences between the USA and Canada? Can anybody explain them? Please? Anybody? Buehler? Buehler?
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Old 07-29-2010, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Californ-eye-aye
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Why would you want your tax payer money going to fix Aunt Helga's Smoking Problem, or some dumb ass who hurt his or herself driving drunk

When everyone pays, and everyone has the same access, the system becomes over crampt and health care declines

It is like trying to feed the entire country at the same time. The quanity has to go up, and as a result the QUALITY goes down. Service becomes more complex and people are lost in the system.

In Canada, you have to wait for health care. And there isn't nearly as many people up there.
I don't get it. Why wouldn't I? It wouldn't be helping just the "dumb ass who hurt his or her self while driving drunk," it would also be helping those who have medical issues that were not their fault, like the one who lost his or her job, then suffered from stroke due to hereditary high blood pressure and got slapped with a $400,000 medical bill (I know someone to whom this really happened).

I guess what you're saying is health care is a priviledge and not a right? Only those who can afford health care are entitled to health care? Those who cannot are worthy to be left to die? Otherwise, the health care system would be overwhelmed, and no one would benefit?

Canada's health care system is not perfect either; both can use some improvement.

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Old 07-30-2010, 11:04 AM
 
Location: A Land Not So Far Away
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We're not really there just yet, if at all. What we still have hung on to are the few values that are left and our history. If things in the White House stay the same in the next six years, we'll be getting dangerously close.
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Old 07-30-2010, 03:07 PM
 
Location: 304
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I don't get it. Why wouldn't I? It wouldn't be helping just the "dumb ass who hurt his or her self while driving drunk," it would also be helping those who have medical issues that were not their fault, like the one who lost his or her job, then suffered from stroke due to hereditary high blood pressure and got slapped with a $400,000 medical bill (I know someone to whom this really happened).

I guess what you're saying is health care is a priviledge and not a right? Only those who can afford health care are entitled to health care? Those who cannot are worthy to be left to die? Otherwise, the health care system would be overwhelmed, and no one would benefit?

Canada's health care system is not perfect either; both can use some improvement.
Things that are run by the government, normaly end badly.

The post office, social security, medicade, medicare, welfare, ect

this would be no different.

I don't want the government coming between me and my docter

If you ask me, it isn't the governments responsibility. It might be the Christians
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Old 07-30-2010, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Californ-eye-aye
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Things that are run by the government, normaly end badly.

The post office, social security, medicade, medicare, welfare, ect

this would be no different.

I don't want the government coming between me and my docter

If you ask me, it isn't the governments responsibility. It might be the Christians
Ya, I can agree with that especially when it comes to our government.

But if you ask me, I don't mind seeing my tax money going to a universal, public health care system that works.

It doesn't cover optional plastic surgery or any dental work.

And only treatment options that are approved by the province are covered. But to me that is no different from the health care that we pay for. I don't see the difference between a corporation telling you, "your treatment is not approved by your insurance plan," and the government telling you that.

Plus, for some treatments that are not covered by public health care (eye and dental work, extended hospital stays, ambulance rides), there are private health care options available, although not as comprehensive as those in the U.S. because the public covers most of the rest. There are even private health care options for Canadians to be covered while travelling in the U.S.

You may pay slightly higher in taxes, and the system isn't perfect (government not keeping up with latest medical trends as quickly as US private health care... doctor shortages...), but you'll have more money in your pocket in the long run.

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Old 07-30-2010, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Burnsville, Minnesota
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No, Canada is just a bizarre United States.

What is so wrong with having loaded firearms in your home? As long as you keep them out of the reach of children and use them responsibly or as a last resort in an emergency, I don't see the problem.

Racial and ethnic diversity is massively overrated in the U.S. Some people are very ignorant on what it is and isn't. Heck, I have a blog post ranting about that.
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