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Old 07-05-2007, 07:17 PM
 
Location: St. Louis, MO
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[quote=ajf131;1010611]I have tons of friends at Truman-state...they think it's relatively Midwestern and I agree. Southern compared to Iowa and Minnesota? maybe...Southern I'm not sure I agree. If you want a Southern town in Missouri, go to Cape Girardeau or Sikeston or someplace in the bootheel...those towns definitely do not look like any parts of Illinois, Indiana, or Ohio in ANY shape or form and remind you of Kentucky, Tennessee, and Arkansas. I think most rural towns generally are laid-back anywhere that you go. This is not to say they do not have some Southern influences, but they are not Southern themselves, they definitely seem pretty Midwestern to me. Is it really that easy to generalize any region of the United States? No two states are EXACTLY alike. They may be similar, but all have their own feels and identities.
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Old 07-06-2007, 11:37 AM
 
Location: St. Louis, MO
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I'm from Maryland and the lines are blurring so much. We used to be clearly southern but thanks to all the transplants from New York and New Jersey we're practically Northern now, especially around DC and to a certain extent Baltimore. Also Baltimore physically looks more like a northern city with its depressing brick buildings, tenements, gray masonry, etc. Absolutely nothing of the grand plantations or the stylish architecture you see in Savannah, New Orleans, or Charleston.

There are some who say even Raleigh and Richmond are more northern than southern now culturally, not to mention Miami and Tampa. I would say the southernmost northern city is Miami lol!!

I consider St. Louis and Kansas City to be Midwestern though others claim they are southern. I've also heard Oklahoma City and Tulsa described as both southern and midwestern, and Dallas-Fort Worth as both southern and Southwestern. I would say Indianapolis is the Midwest.

I generally agree with OKC and Tulsa, but I see no way in which St. Louis and Kansas City are Southern. They are solidly Midwestern cities as is Cincy. Louisville because of its location in Kentucky and below the Mason-Dixon line is not Midwestern at all...it is very Southern.
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Old 12-04-2011, 10:12 PM
 
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I see nothing southern about KC or STL or Cincy. All sources and most residents of these cities consider them Midwestern. Louisvillians generally consider themselves Southern. i think the four cities I just mentioned exhibit very obviously and clearly which regions they belong in. I say the debate needs to be taken away from these cities. West Virginia and Maryland and Northern Virginia are where the real ambiguities are to me anyway.
i noticed dat u try and force ur opinions on others i live in st louis and i think it is southern dats MY opnion
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Old 12-04-2011, 11:47 PM
 
Location: West Tennessee
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i noticed dat u try and force ur opinions on others i live in st louis and i think it is southern dats MY opnion
Why do you feel that way? I've never had that impression from St. Louis.
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Old 12-05-2011, 05:53 AM
 
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Did you really quote Dick Clark, seriously? Dick Clark. What does he have to do with the price of bananas? The sources some people use are so laughable. You just pull any crap off the internet and treat is as a credible source?
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Old 12-05-2011, 06:43 AM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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Wearing gold teeth and talking with a twang does not make a city "Southern". Oakland has those characteristics, largely due to a black culture with Southern roots, but that in no way makes it a Southern city.
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Old 12-05-2011, 07:58 AM
 
Location: 304
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I live around Charleston, WV and we consider ourselves the Northern Most Southern City/Southern Most Northern City. I here that alot. And the truth is that Charleston has a very unique blend of both Nothern and Southern characteristics.
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Old 12-05-2011, 08:33 AM
 
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Anyone who thinks St. Louis is southern simply hasn't been to the south. Night and day. I'm from Philadelphia and live in St. Louis. This city is not southern by any stretch.
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Old 12-05-2011, 10:32 AM
 
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St. Louis is the southern-most northern city. Cincinnati is in a similar category.
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Old 12-05-2011, 11:45 AM
 
Location: West Tennessee
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Anyone who thinks St. Louis is southern simply hasn't been to the south. Night and day. I'm from Philadelphia and live in St. Louis. This city is not southern by any stretch.
Agreed 100%. I'm from a town 2 hours south of St. Louis near where it actually becomes the south.
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