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IMO the Northernmost southern city is Richmond, VA and the Southernmost Northern city is Washington DC.
Makes sense from an east coast standpoint (though I'd describe DC as more neutral/internationally focused, almost not regional at all). But keep in mind that the larger cities of WV and KY are all a bit north of Richmond. Also, St. Louis is probably "northern", and it's very slightly south of DC.
I don't think Maryland belongs in the south. No way. How is Baltimore and DC any different from Philly NYC Boston etc. They are in the same region the Northeast corridor and have the same accents and culture. I just want to hear why you think DC and Baltimore are so southern. lol
The south starts in north carolina to me. Virginia and West virginia all belong to the mid atlantic same with maryland penn, new york and new jersey.
DC and Baltimore does not have an large Puerto Rican, Dominican and Italian population like Philly, NYC Boston and other northeastern cities. The Baltimore accent has an southern influence to it along with its northeastern influences. DC natives, in particular the native white population, does not really have a noticeable accent. Overall I wouldn't say that DC and Baltimore area are definitely southern but I wouldn't say it is definitely northern or northeastern either. Now from an urban layout DC and Baltimore definitely have more similarities with the northeast than the south. Baltimore is also definitely more "northern" than DC in terms of culture. Virginia is 100% southern by the way. But to answer the question, Baltimore is the Northernmost southern city because it is technically in the south (along with DC).
IMO the Northernmost southern city is Richmond, VA and the Southernmost Northern city is Washington DC.
I think you're only focusing on the East Coast.
As far as major cities. The Northernmost Southern city is Louisville. The Southernmost Northern city is St. Louis. Of course, both cities are debatable by some, but I think the majority will agree that Louisville is Southern and St. Louis is Northern (or simply not Southern)
As far as major cities. The Northernmost Southern city is Louisville. The Southernmost Northern city is St. Louis. Of course, both cities are debatable by some, but I think the majority will agree that Louisville is Southern and St. Louis is Northern (or simply not Southern)
Well since we're talking about the Northernmost Southern city, then of course the Midwest should be included in this discussion. The vast majority of the South lies below the Midwest, not the Northeast, not the Mid-Atlantic. The North/South divide goes beyond the East Coast...
The shape of Maryland doesn't appear to be a southern state, southerns states are huge (geographically). Maryland is the smallest in the south. Maryland avg. income is the highest in the nation (2nd, NJ & 3rd, CT). Baltimore is considered northern but southerner's, yet northerners consider it the south. I'm not sure how Philadelphia residents feel about it because Baltimore is very similar to it, it's just half it's size. Also Maryland has a county of the Philly MSA. Maryland does have parts that heavily resemble the south, & even the Midwest but the MAJORITY of Maryland looks & functions as if it's the northeast. Our education facilities are more southern in my opinion with the exception of Johns Hopkins (which could pass as a Ivy League).
Question to Northerns: what qualifies a city and/or state to be Northern? (to be answered by every northerner not just new yorkers)
Because I truly don't see what Baltimore is missing besides the accent (which is mixed with the south & north), & a huge amount of puerto ricans.
DC and Baltimore does not have an large Puerto Rican, Dominican and Italian population like Philly, NYC Boston and other northeastern cities. The Baltimore accent has an southern influence to it along with its northeastern influences. DC natives, in particular the native white population, does not really have a noticeable accent. Overall I wouldn't say that DC and Baltimore area are definitely southern but I wouldn't say it is definitely northern or northeastern either. Now from an urban layout DC and Baltimore definitely have more similarities with the northeast than the south. Baltimore is also definitely more "northern" than DC in terms of culture. Virginia is 100% southern by the way. But to answer the question, Baltimore is the Northernmost southern city because it is technically in the south (along with DC).
What's your obsession with Puerto Ricans. That's like the hundreth time you said that.
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