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Old 07-17-2010, 11:39 AM
 
Location: moving again
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I guess the US Government consists of idiots then:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._9_regions.svg

You guys need to get the message across to Washington DC, you are a district in a neutral location, does not belong in any region of the USA.
Different government organizations have different region definitions though. Therefore, only some organizations within the US government are idiots

As a Bal/Wash native, the first time i heard anyone refer to the area as southern was as a teen actually.
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Old 07-17-2010, 11:49 AM
 
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Baltimore and DC are not southern in any shape, way, or form...DC native here. We are not southerners.
It is historically a part of the South. The South was much further North until the late 19th century until large-scale immigration changed the culture of the Northern edge pushing the boundary down. More recently is is pushing further down along the Atlantic Coast.
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Old 07-17-2010, 11:58 AM
 
Location: The canyon (with my pistols and knife)
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It is historically a part of the South. The South was much further North until the late 19th century until large-scale immigration changed the culture of the Northern edge pushing the boundary down. More recently is is pushing further down along the Atlantic Coast.
And even at its zenith, the South never included any part of Pennsylvania.
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Old 07-17-2010, 12:07 PM
 
Location: moving again
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Nor the whole of Maryland
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Old 07-17-2010, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Duluth MN
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I guess the US Government consists of idiots then:
Never said a truer word.
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Old 07-17-2010, 03:34 PM
 
Location: New England & The Maritimes
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everything is relative. To me, Baltimore and DC are southern. So is Philly and NYC.

Canadians sometimes call our whole nation "down south".

To people in Brazil, I would imagine Jacksonville is pretty darn "northern".


(Okay, I am playing with "south" a geographic direction, and shouldn't be taken too seriously. However, it doesn't change the fact that cultural boundaries are all relative too. DC, and Baltimore, and even Philly, although not "southern", do have many more southern characteristics than Boston.)
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Old 07-17-2010, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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I guess the US Government consists of idiots then:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._9_regions.svg

You guys need to get the message across to Washington DC, you are a district in a neutral location, does not belong in any region of the USA.
Yes; it does
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Old 07-17-2010, 08:06 PM
 
Location: The City
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everything is relative. To me, Baltimore and DC are southern. So is Philly and NYC.

Canadians sometimes call our whole nation "down south".

To people in Brazil, I would imagine Jacksonville is pretty darn "northern".


(Okay, I am playing with "south" a geographic direction, and shouldn't be taken too seriously. However, it doesn't change the fact that cultural boundaries are all relative too. DC, and Baltimore, and even Philly, although not "southern", do have many more southern characteristics than Boston.)

Just curious, how so?
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Old 07-17-2010, 10:40 PM
 
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I know some native DC residents who talk about when DC used to be part of the south (they meant within their lifetime, by the way). I don't think DC is Southern these days, but I also don't think anyone is an "idiot" if they feel otherwise. Historically it had close Southern ties and affiliations, and it does, obviously, border VA -- a very Southern state.

I would never consider Baltimore a southern city, though. I think it's definitely solidly in the north.
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Old 07-17-2010, 11:06 PM
 
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I know some native DC residents who talk about when DC used to be part of the south (they meant within their lifetime, by the way). I don't think DC is Southern these days, but I also don't think anyone is an "idiot" if they feel otherwise. Historically it had close Southern ties and affiliations, and it does, obviously, border VA -- a very Southern state.

I would never consider Baltimore a southern city, though. I think it's definitely solidly in the north.
I think with Baltimore, it was but a longer time ago than with Washington DC. I think it changed about the same time St. Louis changed in the 2nd half of the 19th century and for the same reason which is immigration.
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