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Old 07-18-2010, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Ok then tell me, what does Tifton GA have in common with Boynton Beach FL? Culturally they are pretty much nothing a like, and thats what this thread is about correct? The OP said he doesn't see how Maine and Pittsburg can be in the same region cause they are not alike.. Same goes with the southern half of FL and the rest of the south.
Why just pick out Boyton Beach? Why not Clewiston, Florida which is also in South Florida. Hell, Victoria, Texas and Columbia, South Carolina do not have much in common. But they are still in the same Southern region.
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Old 07-18-2010, 12:02 PM
 
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Why just pick out Boyton Beach? Why not Clewiston, Florida which is also in South Florida. Hell, Victoria, Texas and Columbia, South Carolina do not have much in common. But they are still in the same Southern region.
I think his argument was sort of weak because he compared an undeveloped area that's landlocked with a beach town type of place in a populated area. Tifton doesn't have much in common with Brookhaven, Decatur, Marietta, or even Hapeville and they are all in GA! He should have compared Boynton Beach to Myrtle Beach but that's just my opinion.
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Old 07-18-2010, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Austin, Texas
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Why just pick out Boyton Beach? Why not Clewiston, Florida which is also in South Florida. Hell, Victoria, Texas and Columbia, South Carolina do not have much in common. But they are still in the same Southern region.
To be fair though, Victoria and Columbia probably have more alike at the core than somplace in small town Georgia does with South Florida. Though I do see where you are coming from. I feel like the country should be split into four or five regions, then each of those regions should have sub-regions. That's the only fair way to do it I think.
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Old 07-18-2010, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Savannah GA
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Why does the country have to be split into regions at all? What's the point? It's counterproductive and self-destructive. We are one UNITED nation made up of 50 unique individual STATES. Why can't that be enough?
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Old 07-18-2010, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Why does the country have to be split into regions at all? What's the point? It's counterproductive and self-destructive. We are one UNITED nation made up of 50 unique individual STATES. Why can't that be enough?
I agree
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Old 07-18-2010, 03:03 PM
 
Location: OKIE-Ville
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Why does the country have to be split into regions at all? What's the point? It's counterproductive and self-destructive. We are one UNITED nation made up of 50 unique individual STATES. Why can't that be enough?
Good call, Newsboy.

I'm with ya.....we are a united nation before anything else. We should always keep this reality in the forefront of all of these regional discussions.
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Old 07-18-2010, 09:44 PM
 
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Why does the country have to be split into regions at all? What's the point? It's counterproductive and self-destructive. We are one UNITED nation made up of 50 unique individual STATES. Why can't that be enough?
Let me say first of all that yes, were ARE the United States. Most of us are very proud of being so, and when it comes down to the brass tacks, we all fight on the same side of the creek.

Reminds me a bit of when the 9/11 terrorist attack occured. I was with a group of my buddies that next weekend (all members of the Sons of Confederate Veterans) for our annual get-together. We were watching the news and that classic clip was played, where the band, outside of Buckingham Palace, played the National Anthem. There wasn't a dry eye amongst us, and one of the guys said something to the effect of "New York may be yankee...but by damn they are OUR yankees..."

Anyway, I don't see anything counter-productive at all about divisions into natural historical and cultural regions. Some states are more connected with others in that realm. And what is wrong with that? I don't know of many countries which dont have the same type deliniations.

Outlining regions with the United States is not inherently divisive. It simply reflects reality of different settlement patterns, history, culture, traditions, and etc. That can't be erased and shouldn't be. New England has its own sense of identity, as does the South. What is wrong with that? It is just the next level up from the uniqueness of the individual states themselves.

BTW -- here is that clip from outside Buckingham Palace. Will bring tears to a glass eye..


YouTube - 9/11 American National Anthem Buckingham Palace
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Old 07-18-2010, 09:59 PM
 
Location: America
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Western South - Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisana
Deep South ---- Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, Tennessee, South Carolina
Upper South ---- Virginia, West Virginia, Kentucky, North Carolina
except that the "western south" is not necessarily opposite the "deep south". the opposite of the western south is the southeast, but the deep south is found in either one:

western south: texas, oklahoma, arkansas, and louisiana
southeast: mississippi, alabama, georgia, tennessee, the carolinas, and florida
deep south: louisiana, mississippi, alabama, the non-appalachian parts of georgia and s. carolina, north florida, east texas, and the southern and/or delta parts of tennessee and arkansas
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Old 07-19-2010, 01:05 AM
 
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except that the "western south" is not necessarily opposite the "deep south". the opposite of the western south is the southeast, but the deep south is found in either one:

western south: texas, oklahoma, arkansas, and louisiana
southeast: mississippi, alabama, georgia, tennessee, the carolinas, and florida
deep south: louisiana, mississippi, alabama, the non-appalachian parts of georgia and s. carolina, north florida, east texas, and the southern and/or delta parts of tennessee and arkansas
Well put, AlGreen! Sub-regions overlap quite a bit. While, as you say, Texas as a whole, is properly considered "western South", East Texas is very much a cultural and historical extension of the Deep South. Or, from another direction (travelling west to east), where the Deep South begins.
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Old 07-19-2010, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Lower East Side, Milwaukee, WI
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NORTHEAST
  • New England: CT, RI, MA, NH, VT, ME
  • Mid Atlantic: NY, NJ, PA, DE, MD, DC*
SOUTHEAST
  • Upper South: MO, KY, WV, VA, TN, NC
  • Deep South: AR, LA, MS, AL, GA, SC
  • Florida
  • Texas
MIDWEST
  • Great Lakes: OH, MI, IN, IL, WI, MN, IA**
  • Great Plains: ND, SD, NE, KS, OK
WEST
  • Mountain West: MT, ID, WY, UT, CO
  • Desert Southwest: NM, AZ, NV
  • Pacific Northwest: AK, WA, OR
  • California
  • Hawaii
* = not a state
** = not located on the Great Lakes
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