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View Poll Results: what cities have big downtowns?
philadelphia 104 72.73%
los angeles 56 39.16%
honolulu 12 8.39%
tampa 1 0.70%
atlanta 55 38.46%
omaha 0 0%
milwaukee 8 5.59%
dallas 49 34.27%
miami 49 34.27%
memphis 3 2.10%
kansas city mo 13 9.09%
st. louis 25 17.48%
san antonio 6 4.20%
san francisco 91 63.64%
houston 61 42.66%
san diego 24 16.78%
buffalo 5 3.50%
st. paul 4 2.80%
cincinatti 19 13.29%
denver 37 25.87%
seattle 71 49.65%
cleveland 21 14.69%
boston 77 53.85%
pittsburg 35 24.48%
detroit 34 23.78%
phoenix 11 7.69%
nashville 10 6.99%
charlotte 15 10.49%
portland 16 11.19%
minneapolis 52 36.36%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 143. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-10-2012, 01:38 PM
 
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There are lots of ways to determine "big" and lots of ways to delineate downtown. One indicator is how many people are living near the center of the city. The 2010 Census found 15 cities with 100,000 or more people living within 2 miles of City Hall (rounded to nearest 000):

New York 438,000
San Francisco 356,000
Philadelphia 236,000
Boston 184,000
Chicago 182,000
Los Angeles 179,000
Washington 157,000
Baltimore 156,000
Honolulu 125,000
Minneapolis 123,000
Providence 116,000
Seattle 106,000
San Jose 105,000
Oxnard-Ventura 104,000
Bridgeport 101,000

With the exception of Oxnard and Bridgeport those are all reasonable candidates to be "big" downtowns. San Diego, Portland, Atlanta, Denver, Dallas, and Houston all fell short of the 100,000 mark. Unfortunately the available statistics don't provide data on second cities in metropolitan areas, like Saint Paul or Oakland or Fort Worth, so we don't have an answer on any of those.

So, where exactly is city hall in DC? What did they use? Did they use this 1350 Pennsylvania Avenue Northwest, Washington, DC 20004? If they did, that greatly impacts DC's numbers with the National Mall being right there. I will say though, this same measurment will be over 200,000 for DC in 2020.
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Old 10-11-2012, 10:21 PM
 
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Philadelphia's got a strong mixed-use downtown where residences (townhouses, apartments, and some lofts), office buildings, retail areas, restaurant rows, and hotels are all close together. It has a strong, vibrant downtown feel, and it has been building. Tax abatements for new development have encouraged building, some think the city's been too generous. Walkscores for access to services are high, but it's also a good walking environment, which at present there's no way to measure. University City, where Penn and Drexel are, is separate, because it's across the Schuykill River, but it's adjacent and you can easily walk from one to the other. There are teaching/research hospitals in Center City Philly (the downtown). Somebody quoted a figure of Philly having the 3rd largest residengtial population in the defined downtown, but I don't know where that number comes from.

It's strongly defined as separate from the rest of the city, which is both a good thing and a bad thing. The zone of center city residential, with lots of young and single people, is spreading both north and south, so they may change people's perceptions of where Center City begins or ends.

Washington's City Hall is up around 16th & U, I'm not sure exactly where, but it's not in the Federal Triangle. I'd guess that they wanted to separate themselves from the federal government that dictates so much to the city, but I don't know that. So there's dense residential pretty much all around it. Citywide the population of Washington went up from roughly 570,000 to 600,000 in the last Census. It will presumably go up again, but the gentrification the city is experiencing has some contradictory effects on population. On the one hand, buildings are built, more people want to live there etc., increasing the population. On the other, small, affluent households move into houses that were previously occupied by larger low income familieis, or even whole rooming houses. That reduces the population.
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Old 10-12-2012, 02:08 PM
 
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Portland, The Buildings are so close together that the citiy looks really big.
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Old 10-21-2012, 01:03 PM
 
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NY, Chi, LA, San Francisco, Boston, Seattle and Houston
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Old 10-21-2012, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Philadelphia, San Francisco and Boston are the only three on this list that have "Big" downtowns. Obviously Chicago and New York are included in that list and are in their own tier on top. Los Angeles and Seattle seem to be catching up and are a solid third tier behind Philly, San Fran and Boston.
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Old 10-31-2012, 10:24 PM
 
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There are lots of ways to determine "big" and lots of ways to delineate downtown. One indicator is how many people are living near the center of the city. The 2010 Census found 15 cities with 100,000 or more people living within 2 miles of City Hall (rounded to nearest 000):
Is there a way for me to find this out for other cities?
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Old 11-01-2012, 05:36 AM
 
Location: The City
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Is there a way for me to find this out for other cities?
CAPS10C - Missouri Census Data Center


Find the population density around any point in the US!
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Old 11-02-2012, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Scranton, PA
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I went with Philly, S.F, and L.A.
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