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When no links are provided (and even with links sometimes); then isn't everything a poster "says" essentially their opinion.....isn't that really what the forum is "all about"? Our Opinions......
Then why don't you provide something to the contrary with real benchmarks?
Snarky much?
The most recent estimates of Downtown Atlanta are over 30,000. And it feels like it when you are actually "there".
LOL.....although I also do not agree with the only four downtowns opinion...that's my opinion on their opinion and your post is your opinion.....as I see no links..
Something like this is just common knowledge...it's something of which most of us don't need to see proof. If someone were arguing that Iowa isn't a "real" state, would I really need to post a reference proving that Iowa IS a state? It's common knowledge, just like the knowledge that there are more than four real downtowns in the U.S.
Downtown Los Angeles has seen a growth to 40,000 residents by 2009 and could grow over 45,000 once several condo buildings and towers finish up in early 2011. There has been lots of growth in nightlife, street life, and walk ability as stores have opened to serve the growing neighborhood. Grocery stores, pharmacies, cafes, restauraunts, art walks, farmer's markets, etc... have all started to move in to serve these residents. There are still things to improve and hopefully the next decade and the Bringing Back Broadway group can do it, but the neighborhood is looking way better, even compared to just two years ago. Many young professionals moving in and its also a very popular neighborhood for University of Southern California students which is located just south of downtown.
Streets are packed in the Historic Core and Artist's District of Downtown during the Art Walks
Nokia Plaza at L.A. Live
Crocker Club
Ralphs Grocery
Newest rail station in Downtown Los Angeles, the Gole Line extension's Little Tokyo/Art's District station.
Adaptive reuse has saved beautiful architecture like the Eastern Columbia Building in the Historic Core by turning empty buildings into residential condos or lofts.
Very informative post on Downtown L.A. - thank you. Too many people automatically write it off based on what they've heard, but L.A. actually has a beautiful/lively downtown.
NY is basically one big downtown. Manhattan is enough but there are parts in the other boroughs that could give cities downtowns a run for their money by themselves
To me the largest downtowns after those (NYC and Chicago) would be in order
Philadelphia
San Francisco
Boston
DC
Minneapolis
Detroit
Pittsburgh
then other large downtowns
LA
San Diego
Cinci
Cleveland
Seattle
Jersey City
Newark
Kansas City
Some of the Sunbelts feel pretty large too
Atlanta
Houston
Dallas
Miami
You mention Detroit having a large downtown. I would have to disagree. For the first time in 10 years I visited Detroit and I was shocked by its condition. Yea everyone knows its neighborhoods are wrecked and 1/3 abandoned but there is also abandonment downtown. I had never seen an abandoned skyscraper until 2 weeks ago when I saw it in Detroit. THere seem to be lots of them there, a good part of downtown is abandoned. Only the area around the sports stadiums and greektown are still alive. The rest of the downtown is a shambles. Leaving the baseball game, no less than 10 bums begged me for money. After seeing what I saw I know now there is no hope for Detroit. Any effort to revive it is a waste of money and most of it should be demolished. Such a shame, many of those buildings were once beautiful 1920s art deco style, and the old homes down there were also grand before the animals that live there destroyed them. What was once Americas 3rd largest city, the boomtown of the early 20th century is now destroyed. Im convinced downtown Detroit will be completely abandoned within 50 years, and the rest of the city will be nothing but a ruin with criminals and sqatters living in the remains of the city. By what I saw its not that far from those conditions now.
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