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Old 08-02-2010, 12:56 PM
 
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I work with poor children in the schools. They get free breakfasts and many free or reduced costs lunches. The school more or less tries to serve healthly foods, but also does serve sugary desserts for lunch.

We have one little 4 year old girl who is clinically obese. Her mother and grandparents are normal sized people. However, her mother always sends her to school with little baggies of treats. Breakfast she eats nothing but milk, and of course, her sugarly treats. Lunch time generally all she eats is the dessert of cookies or cake. She will also pour ketchup and dip the dessert in it or just eat it by the spoonful. The teacher has tried to tell her mother not to send these snacks into school, but she still does. As you said, they are poor and it seems the mother is giving her this junk food to make her daughter happy.

In contrast to this, there are also many Haitian children. They are on the opposite side of the coin so to speak. They eat almost nothing except rice and beans. They will not eat cookies or any sweet dessert. They devour any fresh fruit (oranges, bananas, applies) they see. They are all very normal, if not underweight. They also are poor, but apparently, their parents, and culture, don't give them the same foods that "American" poor parents do.

You do have a point as to food being used as a "comfort". With children, however, parents, not necessarily the schools, play more of a role in this.
I don't know about the school in which you work, but most of these "poor children" who receive free or reduced lunch are cases of blatant fraudulence. Their parents know that the government only audits a very tiny portion of the individuals who submit documentation for free and reduced lunch, so they misrepresent their income, claiming they make much less than they actually do. Since so few are audited, wha-la, a family who really makes $60,000 combined income, perhaps more, are receiving free and reduced lunch for their kids.

The above is the most outright pathetic example of the greediness and laziness of a large segment of the American population. A school lunch is on the order of $1.75 for children in many districts. Let's say you have two children. $1.75 * 2 = $3.50 per day * 5 = $17.50 per week * 4 = $70 per month. That's NOT a lot of money, especially for people who fraudently complete the documentation, misrepresenting their incomes.

Thus, when you see or hear that a school has upped its "free and reduced lunch" percentages, just look at it as a representation of the percentage of parents who are slackers and swindlers in the area, just as much as it is a reflection of "poverty".
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Old 08-02-2010, 06:15 PM
 
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I don't know about the school in which you work, but most of these "poor children" who receive free or reduced lunch are cases of blatant fraudulence. Their parents know that the government only audits a very tiny portion of the individuals who submit documentation for free and reduced lunch, so they misrepresent their income, claiming they make much less than they actually do. Since so few are audited, wha-la, a family who really makes $60,000 combined income, perhaps more, are receiving free and reduced lunch for their kids.

The above is the most outright pathetic example of the greediness and laziness of a large segment of the American population. A school lunch is on the order of $1.75 for children in many districts. Let's say you have two children. $1.75 * 2 = $3.50 per day * 5 = $17.50 per week * 4 = $70 per month. That's NOT a lot of money, especially for people who fraudently complete the documentation, misrepresenting their incomes.

Thus, when you see or hear that a school has upped its "free and reduced lunch" percentages, just look at it as a representation of the percentage of parents who are slackers and swindlers in the area, just as much as it is a reflection of "poverty".
as of this summer are getting free breakfasts. It is now NOT income related. Rich kids will get free breakfasts too. In fact, over the summer any child enrolled in the schools could just go to a school from 7AM to 9AM and could receive a free breakfast. Their statement was that all children need to be nourished in order to do well in school.

We are from a different state. When my husband was out of work (outsourced) and collecting an unemployment check of $425/a week, my own two kids were eligible for free breakfast and lunch. That was a good 15 years ago. All we had to do was show the sub from his unemployment check. If I remember correctly, at the time a family of 4 needed to make under $40,000 to be eligible. The more people in the family, the income level went higher.
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Old 08-09-2010, 07:56 AM
 
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Not suprised to see Michigan on the lazy state list, or the Obese state list. Im actually suprised to see we are not #1 on both lists.
Is Michigan really that bad?
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