U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S.
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 07-31-2010, 07:30 PM
 
1,250 posts, read 2,121,370 times
Reputation: 279

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by waronxmas View Post
I was speaking culturally/vibe/citylife. In that regard there is zero similarity.

But to your point, there are some superficial similarities. Both cities were booming in the first half of the 20th century. Chances are a lot of the same construction companies were used for houses, building, and such. However, Birmingham came to a near dead stop growth wise, Atlanta kept on going. Then there is the fact Birmingham is considerably hillier than Atlanta, built on a street grid, was a steel town, more blue collar. Add it all up and there as different as can be, but not completely without similarities. Get what I'm saying?
The biggest difference is in the places in Atlanta that are largely transplants and immigrants. There the culture and values can be vastly different.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 07-31-2010, 07:35 PM
 
14,111 posts, read 22,796,663 times
Reputation: 4214
Quote:
Originally Posted by kdogg817 View Post
Dallas, Memphis, Little Rock, Shreveport, and Monroe all share similar cultures. There isn't much difference culture wise between Dallas and Memphis.
I see the Dallas/Shreveport/Monroe similarities. But Dallas/Memphis/Little Rock?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-31-2010, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Funky Town, Texas
4,137 posts, read 7,203,721 times
Reputation: 2152
Quote:
Originally Posted by polo89 View Post
I see the Dallas/Shreveport/Monroe similarities. But Dallas/Memphis/Little Rock?
There are plenty of Arkansas natives in Dallas. A lot of Arkansas natives come on the weekend to Dallas to play.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-31-2010, 07:44 PM
 
14,111 posts, read 22,796,663 times
Reputation: 4214
When I lived in West Palm Beach FL, the culture was typical "South Florida", it kinda had a different vibe than Miami, but it still felt like South Florida. In other words, it didn't feel like the rest of the South. I guess. When I moved to Austin, the culture was distinct from the rest of Texas East of I-45. Austin also felt different from the rest of the South,, like it didn't belong. Now that I live in Charlotte, I feel a different vibe. Charlotte feels somewhat like a smaller Atlanta, it feels like a typical Piedmont city, it feels like the poster boy for the Piedmont. Like a smaller Atlanta, and a bigger Birmingham.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-31-2010, 07:45 PM
 
14,111 posts, read 22,796,663 times
Reputation: 4214
Quote:
Originally Posted by kdogg817 View Post
There are plenty of Arkansas natives in Dallas. A lot of Arkansas natives come on the weekend to Dallas to play.
You don't think Dallas feels kinda similar to Oklahoma also? I know there are plenty of Okies(yuck) in Dallas.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-31-2010, 07:58 PM
 
Location: Funky Town, Texas
4,137 posts, read 7,203,721 times
Reputation: 2152
Quote:
Originally Posted by polo89 View Post
You don't think Dallas feels kinda similar to Oklahoma also? I know there are plenty of Okies(yuck) in Dallas.
LOL yea Dallas have similarities with Oklahoma as well and honestly Oklahoma culturely wise is very similar to Arkansas and Texas.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-31-2010, 08:46 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, United States
4,230 posts, read 9,148,199 times
Reputation: 1407
Quote:
Originally Posted by polo89 View Post
I see the Dallas/Shreveport/Monroe similarities. But Dallas/Memphis/Little Rock?
Especially Little Rock, it feels more like Dallas than Shreveport IMO and if you're going west to Monroe you might as well throw in Memphis and a large chunk of Mississippi.


Quote:
Originally Posted by waronxmas View Post
I was speaking culturally/vibe/citylife. In that regard there is zero similarity.

But to your point, there are some superficial similarities. Both cities were booming in the first half of the 20th century. Chances are a lot of the same construction companies were used for houses, building, and such. However, Birmingham came to a near dead stop growth wise, Atlanta kept on going. Then there is the fact Birmingham is considerably hillier than Atlanta, built on a street grid, was a steel town, more blue collar. Add it all up and there as different as can be, but not completely without similarities. Get what I'm saying?
Atlanta feels like a larger version of Birmingham with bookoos more to do and see honestly IMO. While not exactly alike, they are awfully close. If Birmingham hadn't stopped growing I bet that they would feel a lot alike vs. if Jackson on Memphis grew to the extent of Atlanta.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-31-2010, 08:53 PM
 
1,766 posts, read 2,790,445 times
Reputation: 1497
Quote:
Originally Posted by waronxmas View Post
I was speaking culturally/vibe/citylife. In that regard there is zero similarity.

But to your point, there are some superficial similarities. Both cities were booming in the first half of the 20th century. Chances are a lot of the same construction companies were used for houses, building, and such. However, Birmingham came to a near dead stop growth wise, Atlanta kept on going. Then there is the fact Birmingham is considerably hillier than Atlanta, built on a street grid, was a steel town, more blue collar. Add it all up and there as different as can be, but not completely without similarities. Get what I'm saying?

I hear what you're saying but I don't fully agree. I think we're getting off track with growth and street grid debates. What I'm saying is this, as a previous Bham resident, my friends from Atlanta would often come down for the certain occasions and first timers would always expect this extreme dose of "southern culture" in Birmingham that they wouldn't find in Atlanta. They always ended up coming to the same conclusion that I did.

From a Birminghamian's perspective, Nashville has always felt like more of the exact same thing while Atlanta is just a whole lot more of the same thing with a twist. The most significant difference culturally to me is Atlanta's much larger LGBT presence and many more transplants; hence the twist. They're two hours away from eachother; Birmingham culture practically is Atlanta culture-lol Whenever I go out here, I constantly run into Birminghamians, so trust me all of the trends, slang and things of that nature ALWAYS end up in Birmingham almost instantaniously-lol.

Last edited by NorthDeKalb; 07-31-2010 at 09:18 PM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-31-2010, 09:22 PM
 
Location: roaming gnome
12,391 posts, read 24,606,389 times
Reputation: 5672
Quote:
Originally Posted by waronxmas View Post
Birmingham and Atlanta used to be a lot more similar 60 years ago, but they diverged quite dramatically starting in the 70s. Atlanta became a big international city with a diverse population, Birmingham stalled out and remained a medium sized city with pretty much the same demographics. Though some similarities remain, they do not remotely have the same culture and spending 2 minutes in either city that would be come dramatically clear to anyone.
remotely come close to having the same culture? please dude. stop being such a devensive homer. how about a current map? their csa's border eachother, atlanta CSA is IN alabama. either that or you don't know what "culture" is...

edit: I see you just posted, that isn't culture "vibe/shops/city life" lol... basically atlanta is a lot more wealthy than Birmingham and that is why they have the amenities among other things. Nobody is denying it is much more successful city than Birmingham, or anywhere else surrounding it. So is Atlanta a bigger city? Lots more going on? Better jobs? Better skyline? Nicer areas? No doubt about it! It isn't close, it's the same culture though.

the particular kind of southern culture that is in both is pretty much the same, it isn't old south va culture, and it sure isn't the kind you find in Louisiana or Texas.

Plus you have TONS of people from Bham that come into Atlanta for the amenities there plus tons who move there for a better job.

Last edited by grapico; 07-31-2010 at 09:33 PM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-31-2010, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
7,946 posts, read 15,066,599 times
Reputation: 4487
Quote:
Originally Posted by kdogg817 View Post
Dallas, Memphis, Little Rock, Shreveport, and Monroe all share similar cultures. There isn't much difference culture wise between Dallas and Memphis.
Dallas and Memphis have almost zero similarities except they are both in the South. Memphis does share similarities with Little Rock and Shreveport, but Dallas is like another world. For one, Dallas is a modern city with a booming economy while Memphis, Little Rock, and Shreveport are very gritty, dated, and depressed and all of them have very high crime rates for their sizes. Dallas is much more similar to the plains cities like OKC than it is Memphis.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S.
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

2005-2019, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top