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Old 08-02-2010, 06:40 AM
 
Location: New England & The Maritimes
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ny not a sports city?. Three football teams. Die hard yankee and knicks fans. Madison square garden and yankee stadium.Nuff said
3 football teams? pleeeease tell me you aren't calling the Bills an NYC team? the 2 jersey teams that call themselves "ny" are all you got.
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Old 08-02-2010, 06:44 AM
 
Location: The City
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From Forbes most valuable baseball franchises:
RANK TEAM CURRENT VALUE1 ($MIL) 1-YR VALUE CHANGE (%) DEBT/VALUE2 (%) REVENUES ($MIL) OPERATING INCOME3 ($MIL)
1 New York Yankees 1,500 15 95 375 -3.7
2 New York Mets 912 11 76 261 23.5
3 Boston Red Sox 833 2 29 269 25.7
4 Los Angeles Dodgers 722 4 58 241 16.5
5 Chicago Cubs 700 9 0 239 29.7
6 Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim 509 2 7 212 10.3
7 Philadelphia Phillies 496 3 35 216 16.3
8 St Louis Cardinals 486 0 50 195 6.6
9 San Francisco Giants 471 -5 28 196 22.4
10 Chicago White Sox 450 2 9 196 13.8
11 Atlanta Braves 446 -10 0 186 4.7
12 Houston Astros 445 -4 12 194 17.0
13 Seattle Mariners 426 -9 23 189 3.8

From Forbes most Valuable Basketball Franchises:
1. New York Knicks
2. Los Angeles Lakers
3. Chicago Bulls
4. Detroit Pistons
5. Cleveland Cavaliers
6. Houston Rockets
7. Dallas Mavericks
8. Phoenix Suns
9. Boston Celtics
10.San Antonio Spurs

From Forbes Most valuable NFL franchises:
1. Dallas Cowboys
2. Washington Redskins
3. New England Patriots
4. New York Giants
5. New York Jets
6. Houston Texans
7. Philadelphia Eagles
8. Indianapolis Colts
9. Chicago Bears
10.Baltimore Ravens

New York, LA, Boston, Chicago and Houston represent well on these lists. Overall:

2. Dallas Cowboys Football $1.650 billion
3. New York Yankees Baseball $1.6 billion
4. Washington Redskins Football $1.55 billion
5. New England Patriots Football $1.361 billion
7. New York Giants Football $1.183 billion
9. New York Jets Football $1.170 billion
10. Houston Texans Football $1.150 billion
Where is the NHL?
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Old 08-02-2010, 07:02 AM
 
Location: 304
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Boston
Chicago
Pittsburgh
NYC
LA
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Old 08-02-2010, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Up on the moon laughing down on you
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Where is the NHL?
opps, I forgot NHL. People always overlook the NHL.
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Old 08-02-2010, 08:12 AM
 
Location: The City
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opps, I forgot NHL. People always overlook the NHL.

Here's think link
NHL Team Valuations sorted by Rank - Forbes.com

1 Toronto
2 NY Rangers
3 Montreal Canadians
4 Detroit Redwings
5 Philadelphia Flyers
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Old 08-02-2010, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Up on the moon laughing down on you
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I am not surprised that two Canadian teams are in the top 5. Just like I am not surprised that the number one most valuable world football team is in England
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Old 08-02-2010, 11:49 AM
 
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Here is a list of metropolitan areas by population. The order doesn't matter though; it's just a list you can use for my question: Which metros are sports towns and which aren't? You can divide them into categories like "sports town," "not sports town," and "neither," or just comment on specific cities.

To me, a sports town consitutues a town (or area) that heavily supports its teams, whether professional or college (or even high school), in good times, and bad times. Now, every metro will support teams more when their winning, but I think there is a fine line between less support and abandoning the franchise (fair weather).

A sports town, also (but to a smaller extent) has winning teams. Using that criteria, a city like Boston would be a better sports town than San Francisco.

Metros:
New York City
Los Angeles
Chicago
Dallas/Fort Worth
Philadelphia
Houston
Miami
Washington DC
Atlanta
Boston
Phoenix
San Francisco
Seattle
Minneapolis/St. Paul
San Diego
St. Louis
Tampa
Baltimore
Denver
Pittsburgh
Portland
Cincinnatti
Cleveland
Orlando
San Antonio
Kansas City
Las Vegas
San Jose
Columbus
Charlotte
Indianapolis
Milwaukee

other smaller metros:
Madison
Green Bay
Ann Arbor
Austin
College Station
Norman
Chapel Hill

other?


I skipped a few metros that have small sports scenes.

I tend to think that cities with less transplants and more pride in the city are more likely to be good sports towns. I think its no secret that many southern cities which have exploded in growth (Tampa, Phoenix, Atlanta) tend to struggle aganist the likes of northern cities with older and more established franchises (Boston, Chicago, Philadelphia).

I'll post my list of sports towns when I come up with it!

The Atlanta Braves is the oldest major league baseball franchise in operation.
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Old 08-02-2010, 11:53 AM
 
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I would say NY would be tops on just about any list.

To that I would add

Philly
Boston
Houston
Dallas
Miami
Chicago
LA
and some others

For worst I would say San Antonio
It is the 7th largest city in the us and has 1 (only one) major league sports team.
The Spurs might be a good team, but no football, no baseball????
San Antonio is a relatively small metro area, including population. Over half of the metro is San Antonio. This explains why it only has one major league sports franchise.
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Old 08-02-2010, 11:59 AM
 
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Atlanta isn't that bad of a sports market.

The Falcons regularly have fairly good attendance, as do the Braves, with respect to their leagues. The Hawks now have good attendance. The Thrashers vary. On weekends, very good attendance. During the week, so-so, unless playing Philadelphia, Detroit, New York R., or New Jersey.
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Old 08-02-2010, 12:01 PM
 
Location: The City
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Atlanta isn't that bad of a sports market.

The Falcons regularly have fairly good attendance, as do the Braves, with respect to their leagues. The Hawks now have good attendance. The Thrashers vary. On weekends, very good attendance. During the week, so-so, unless playing Philadelphia, Detroit, New York R., or New Jersey.

Anything less than a sell-out to me is pretty embarrasing, especially for the NFL
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