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Old 08-02-2010, 01:19 PM
 
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Well I will disagree on both accounts

Also, the phillies have the 3rd most eyes on them only trailing the Yankees and Mets and 40% more than the Red Sox nation from a TV standpoint - they are national figures

NFL Nashville? Charlotte? Are you kidding me, really - that in and of itself basically detroys any credibility
Have you been around these cities during football season? The South is football country, and the fan bases of the Titans and Panthers are rather large and entrenched despite being relatively young franchises (relocation for the Titans).
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Old 08-02-2010, 01:27 PM
 
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Best Sports Towns:

Baseball

1. Boston
2. St. Louis
3. New York (Yankees)
4. Chicago (Cubs)
5. San Francisco (Giants)
6. Atlanta
7. Houston
8. Denver
9. Philadelphia
10. Baltimore or Anaheim

Football

1. Pittsburgh
2. Green Bay
3. Boston (New England)
4. Dallas
5. New York
6. Denver
7. Chicago
8. Nashville
9. Charlotte
10. Indianapolis or Philadelphia

Basketball

1. Los Angeles
2. Boston
3. Dallas
4. Phoenix
5. San Antonio
6. Salt Lake City
7. Detroit
8. Chicago
9. Miami
10. Cleveland or Orlando

Hockey (U.S.)

1. Detroit
2. Philadelphia
3. Pittsburgh
4. Buffalo
5. Minnesota
6. Dallas
7. Denver
8. Boston
9. New York
10. Chicago or Raleigh
Your baseball and hockey lists need an awful lot of editing; in baseball--Atlanta as #6, Baltimore ( with its empty stadium) as #10???
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Old 08-02-2010, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Boston
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2 million for a metro is not small by any measure. Not one bit.

San Antonio Metro is in the company of:

Denver
Cincinnati
Pittsburgh
Sacramento
Cleveland
Orlando
Kansas
Las Vegas
San Jose
Indianapolis
Baltimore
St Louis


etc.

Not small in the least
I'd agree that San Antonio is not small, but it's also not as much of an outlier as you'd claim regarding sports franchises. Looking at this list, several others have only a single team (Sacramento, Orlando) or were at one time much more important cities than they are today (Kansas Ctiy, St. Louis, Baltimore). The one that stands out to me as odd is Denver which is neither top tier for size nor historically more important than it is today. And yet, it is represented in all four major pro sports leagues.

Now to the OP question, for me, the list of top sports towns is confined to cities that can top 3 million for baseball attendance.
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Old 08-02-2010, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Up on the moon laughing down on you
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Have you been around these cities during football season? The South is football country, and the fan bases of the Titans and Panthers are rather large and entrenched despite being relatively young franchises (relocation for the Titans).
Yeah Football is big in Texas. The Cowboys own it.

and the Titans are traitors. A pox on them
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Old 08-02-2010, 01:30 PM
 
Location: The City
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Have you been around these cities during football season? The South is football country, and the fan bases of the Titans and Panthers are rather large and entrenched despite being relatively young franchises (relocation for the Titans).

Have been to NFL games in Charlotte, Denver, Miami, NY, NE, Chicago, Atlanta, San Diego, Dallas, Seattle, San Francisco, Kansas City, NOLA (never Nashville though) - on Charlotte - it isn't even close to the philly experience - to your point i have not experienced Nashville first hand

Baseball

All NL East
All AL East
St louis, Chicago, LA Dodgers, Houston, San Diego, Cleveland, Cinci, Colorado (know I am forgetting some)
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Old 08-02-2010, 01:31 PM
 
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^^ Oh and also many Big Ten SEC and ACC football games to boot
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Old 08-02-2010, 02:47 PM
 
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Your baseball and hockey lists need an awful lot of editing; in baseball--Atlanta as #6, Baltimore ( with its empty stadium) as #10???
You've got to look at the overall picture. Baltimore had "endless" sell-outs for many, many years at Camden Yards. They have the worst team in baseball right now. Having lower attendance relates to that. If the Yankees or Red Sox were fielding a team that couldn't win, you can bet that there'd be plenty of games with many empty seats.
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Old 08-02-2010, 02:48 PM
 
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Have been to NFL games in Charlotte, Denver, Miami, NY, NE, Chicago, Atlanta, San Diego, Dallas, Seattle, San Francisco, Kansas City, NOLA (never Nashville though) - on Charlotte - it isn't even close to the philly experience - to your point i have not experienced Nashville first hand

Baseball

All NL East
All AL East
St louis, Chicago, LA Dodgers, Houston, San Diego, Cleveland, Cinci, Colorado (know I am forgetting some)
So you just drive around the country to frequent games of teams that are not playing the Phillies, Eagles, Flyers, and 76ers?
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Old 08-02-2010, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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Best Sports Towns:

Basketball

1. Los Angeles
2. Boston
3. Dallas
4. Phoenix
5. San Antonio
6. Salt Lake City
7. Detroit
8. Chicago
9. Miami
10. Cleveland or Orlando
The Mavericks beat the Rockets to your list? I know this is about personal opinion and all. But for real? Mavericks have never won a championship, and only one conference title. The Rockets have 4 conference titles and 2 championships. Not to mention when they play certain teams and when Yao is playing they have more viewers than the super bowl, thanks to China and a larger fan base here than the Mavericks in USA.

They've had big name players, Tracy McGrady, Hakeem Olajuan, Scottie Pippen, Yao Ming, Charles Barkeley.

The Mavericks have had like Jason Kidd & Dirk Nerwitzki and that's about it...

I don't mean to nitpick though, but I think it's the fact that I don't like Dallas's teams all to much that makes me want to point this out.

Otherwise your list looks good.
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Old 08-02-2010, 04:07 PM
 
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I am thinking the question relates to more how important sports are in the culture of an area. I do think places that have a lower number of transplants and immigrants than average tend to be better sports towns, or at least more unified in fan support. It just looks like what is common with places that have very fair-weather fans seems to be areas where transplants tend to be high in number. (Sometimes a team that has stunk for such a long time might look this way as well)
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