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Old 08-03-2010, 04:03 PM
 
Location: The canyon (with my pistols and knife)
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I think this is too heavily based on the professional level. However, I do agree with your lists for the most part for everything but hockey. I'm sorry but I've never heard of Philly or Pittsburgh being great hockey towns. Now, I think they are good overall sports towns... but lets remember that the Pens were last in attendance in the NHL in 03-04.

For hockey, I would say
1) Minneapolis/St. Paul
2) Boston
3) Detroit
4) Chicago
...
everybody else
So were the Blackhawks a few years ago.
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Old 08-03-2010, 06:51 PM
 
Location: DC
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Washington DC has all 4 (5 if u include MLS) sports represented, but it really doesn't feel like a sports city at all.....i don't feel much fanbase here. i went to a Nats game for the first time this summer, and I really felt like the stadium was dead. there were people there, but nobody cheered, they just sat there like they were watching an orchestra. it was kinda sad....and boring.

I can't use the excuse "it just felt dead cuz the team sucks"....because an Orioles game has the stadium FULL of life! Baltimore felt like a real sports town, even if its team isnt top notch.
-I think it has something to do with the fact that DC is such a transient place. the people come and go, and don't really stick around long enough to establish community. I'm at fault for this too, bringing my NY/NJ bias with me.
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Old 08-04-2010, 09:39 AM
 
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So were the Blackhawks a few years ago.
I looked at attendance numbers from the 2000 - 01 season through this past season and the Blackhawks were never dead last.
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Old 08-04-2010, 01:46 PM
 
Location: MINNESOTA
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I was in Philly one time, and I can tell you for sure that that is a sports town. Even random old ladies would have something bad to say about TO. Even Mom's with kids were shouting out loud at Phillies games. It seemed like everybody knew what they were talking about when it came to sports and their teams.

Chicago too.

I also think of NYC being a good sports town. Same with Dallas... Some towns I don't think are good sports towns - Seattle, San Diego, and Miami
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Old 08-04-2010, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Rochester
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So were the Blackhawks a few years ago.
The list I generated is based on my belief of areas with top to down hockey support. To me, having strong support at youth, high school, college, and pros is important. Illinois, and Chicago, isn't a hockey state, but there definetly is support at the pros and the junior hockey levels.
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Old 08-04-2010, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Cleveland bound with MPLS in the rear-view
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My perception:

Big-time sports towns (in no particular order):
1. Chicago
2. New York
3. Philadelphia
4. Dallas
5. LA
6. Pittsburgh
7. Cleveland
8. Boston
9. Milwaukee/Green Bay
10. Twin Cities (guilty bias)

Towns that just don't seem to care as much (in no particular order):
1. Seattle
2. Miami
3. Tampa Bay
4. San Francisco
5. Phoenix

Without starting an absolute sh*t storm, this is a generalized perception based on all 4 major sports categories combined in recent history (e.g. I realize the Phoenix Suns are hugely popular, and I realize the 49ers were once a great dynasty). Also, in reality, Minneapolis/St. Paul may be more middle-ground, mostly because nobody cares much about the Wolves, but without the Twins Vikings or fill-in-the-blank hockey team, people would hang themselves!!
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Old 08-04-2010, 07:15 PM
 
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I thought the Cincinnati Reds were? I believe that the Chicago Cubs are also up there....
No. The Braves are. The history goes way back in Boston.
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Old 08-04-2010, 07:54 PM
 
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I looked at attendance numbers from the 2000 - 01 season through this past season and the Blackhawks were never dead last.
Well I found this from NBC 5 in Chicago:

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Paul M. Banks a.k.a. The Sports Bank, NBC Chicago Street Team During the Bill Wirtz era, it was not uncommon for the Chicago Blackhawks to draw less than 5,000 fans for a game. Earlier this decade, they finished dead last in the NHL in attendance. This season however, the Blackhawks set a National Hockey League club record by attracting an average of 21,783 to their 40 home dates at United Center (also, 40,818 filled Wrigley Field for the Winter Classic on New Year’s Day). It’s fashionable now to be “committed to the Indian.” Supporting the Blackhawks is the new black. On Monday night the Hawks, for the first time in franchise history, welcomed their one millionth fan in a single season (including playoffs) and they did it in style defeating the Vancouver Canucks 7-5 in Game 6 of the Western Conference Semifinals.
Regardless, if fan support for the Penguins was poor early last decade, then it was for the Blackhawks as well.
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Old 08-04-2010, 08:00 PM
 
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In hockey in terms of top to bottom support, it would look something like this:

1 Any Large Canadian City
2 Minneapolis/St Paul

-huge gap-

3 Boston
4 Detroit
5 Buffalo/Rochester

-big gap-

T6 Chicago, Milwaukee/Madison, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, New York, Hartford
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Old 08-04-2010, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Washington DC has all 4 (5 if u include MLS) sports represented, but it really doesn't feel like a sports city at all.....i don't feel much fanbase here. i went to a Nats game for the first time this summer, and I really felt like the stadium was dead. there were people there, but nobody cheered, they just sat there like they were watching an orchestra. it was kinda sad....and boring.

I can't use the excuse "it just felt dead cuz the team sucks"....because an Orioles game has the stadium FULL of life! Baltimore felt like a real sports town, even if its team isnt top notch.
-I think it has something to do with the fact that DC is such a transient place. the people come and go, and don't really stick around long enough to establish community. I'm at fault for this too, bringing my NY/NJ bias with me.
Well for one. The Orioles are far more established in the Baltimore area compared to the Nationals. The Nationals have been in Washington for all of five years and that stadium has been up for all of 3. Give Washington time to build a great atmosphere for the franchise. Now, attend a Redskin game and you will truly see the passion of the sports fans of Washington DC. The Nationals will never reach the popularity and the hearts of the metropolitan area like the Redskins do.
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