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Old 10-05-2010, 06:01 PM
 
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It's really interesting because the kids of African immigrants that I know (only about three or four) all hate being referred to as "African American." They prefer to just be called black or by whichever country their parents are from. I wonder whether this is a general trend or just something specific between those kids.


Also, Bangladeshi isn't a race, it is a nationality. Bengali is the ethnicity, comprising people from Bangladesh and West Bengal, India. Yes, there are definitely some Bengali people who are very dark-skinned, but to say they are one of the darkest groups in the world is totally incorrect. The Indians with the darkest skin usually have origins in South India. An interesting fact is that idols of Hindu gods tend to be colored white in Northern Indian temples but black in Southern Indian ones.
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Old 10-05-2010, 06:16 PM
 
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Most of the Somali population in Minneapolis are refugees not immigrants. There is a difference. Immigrants freely move to a new place, where refugees are place in a location ofter by a church or group. Hmong are refugees and are often called immigrants. The Hmong were placed in the Midwest by the Lutheran Church, that is why their population is large in Minnesota and Wisconsin.
It's both refugees AND immigrants. That's why there's a conflict as to how many Somali's are actually here. Some say 20,000, while others say 70,000. Most Hmong and Somali's around the country come to Minneapolis either to visit family or move permanantly to be with family.
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Old 10-05-2010, 06:22 PM
 
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It's really interesting because the kids of African immigrants that I know (only about three or four) all hate being referred to as "African American." They prefer to just be called black or by whichever country their parents are from. I wonder whether this is a general trend or just something specific between those kids.
The same reason white people want to specify what European country they are from and be proud of it. Africa is a continent, not a monolithic country and sadly most "Blacks" don't have the privilege to know where their ancestors came from.
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Old 10-05-2010, 07:55 PM
 
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It's both refugees AND immigrants. That's why there's a conflict as to how many Somali's are actually here. Some say 20,000, while others say 70,000. Most Hmong and Somali's around the country come to Minneapolis either to visit family or move permanantly to be with family.
Yes, I agree. It gets more complex than just "refuge" or "immigrant;" in both the case of the Hmong and Somali people in the Twin Cities the initial arrivals settled here as refugees, but as established networks have grown there have been many other friends and family who had initially been located elsewhere in the country who have since moved to Minneapolis. They may still be refugees, but their arrival in the Twin Cities (after other stops along the way) specifically was by choice. A choice shaped by many other outside forces, admittedly.

Besides, that's just a matter of terminology: the larger point is just that there are a lot of Somali residents in Minneapolis. I used the term "immigrant" to mean people who were born in Somalia and who now are living in Minneapolis.
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Old 10-05-2010, 08:06 PM
 
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Right, most people refer to immigrant that way and don't dicect it into some microcasm. The Hmong that I met here were mostly from Fresno originally, the Hmong that don't speak English may be refugees though.
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Old 10-05-2010, 08:20 PM
 
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The Washington DC area has many Ethiopians. You can tell them apart from traditional African-Americans, as they are never obese; they generally have uniformly brown (but not black) skin, and their facial features are often more Caucasian-shaped. These Ethiopians work as baggage handlers at airports; as parking garage attendants/cashiers; convenience store cashiers, restauranteurs, and snack and souvenir cart vendors, also as taxi drivers (D.C. for decades has had entire taxi companies which are Ethiopian-owned).


The small, sleepy city of Lewiston, Maine, USA, was suddenly inundated with thousands of Somali refugees, several years ago. They moved there from places like Atlanta GA, wanting to escape crime and gangs. The local residents (most of them of French-Canadian ancestry) were shocked by this sudden influx. The situation in Lewiston has been discussed in articles in many major news media.
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Old 10-05-2010, 08:46 PM
 
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It's really interesting because the kids of African immigrants that I know (only about three or four) all hate being referred to as "African American." They prefer to just be called black or by whichever country their parents are from. I wonder whether this is a general trend or just something specific between those kids.


Also, Bangladeshi isn't a race, it is a nationality. Bengali is the ethnicity, comprising people from Bangladesh and West Bengal, India. Yes, there are definitely some Bengali people who are very dark-skinned, but to say they are one of the darkest groups in the world is totally incorrect. The Indians with the darkest skin usually have origins in South India. An interesting fact is that idols of Hindu gods tend to be colored white in Northern Indian temples but black in Southern Indian ones.
and they shouldnt be called african american because africa is a continent. You are either Nigerian american , ghanian american , ethiopian american etc.
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Old 10-05-2010, 08:49 PM
 
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The Washington DC area has many Ethiopians. You can tell them apart from traditional African-Americans, as they are never obese; they generally have uniformly brown (but not black) skin, and their facial features are often more Caucasian-shaped. These Ethiopians work as baggage handlers at airports; as parking garage attendants/cashiers; convenience store cashiers, restauranteurs, and snack and souvenir cart vendors, also as taxi drivers (D.C. for decades has had entire taxi companies which are Ethiopian-owned).


The small, sleepy city of Lewiston, Maine, USA, was suddenly inundated with thousands of Somali refugees, several years ago. They moved there from places like Atlanta GA, wanting to escape crime and gangs. The local residents (most of them of French-Canadian ancestry) were shocked by this sudden influx. The situation in Lewiston has been discussed in articles in many major news media.
are you suing obesity as an example???

but you are right they look very different besides sometimes the nappy hair.
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Old 10-06-2010, 01:37 PM
 
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Immigration from Liberia is pretty strong too, but no one talks about it because it's a very little country !
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Old 10-06-2010, 06:03 PM
 
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It's both refugees AND immigrants. That's why there's a conflict as to how many Somali's are actually here. Some say 20,000, while others say 70,000. Most Hmong and Somali's around the country come to Minneapolis either to visit family or move permanantly to be with family.
There are also asylees.
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