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Old 08-05-2010, 02:13 PM
 
Location: where my heart is
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As usual Mike is trying to make business down there.
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Old 08-05-2010, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Hernando County, FL
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Look at the National figures. Syracuse & suburbs is rated in the 10 LOWEST HOME PRICE major metro areas of the whole country! Binghamton, Buffalo, Utica/Rome, Rochester, Watertown also have reasonable home prices compared to most of the rest of the country. Can't fight the surveyed figures; they're real!

I'm not sure where you live but the homes in my suburb and most Syracuse Suburbs have a whole wide mix of sizes, styles, different colored exteriors, varied features so I don't consider Syracuse Suburbs as cookie-cutter. You want to see cookie-cutter? Look at developments in California or Nevada, or Arizonia where EVERY HOUSE looks EXACTLY ALIKE. Make sure you look at the house number or you'll be walking into your neighbor's house.

I challenge you to buy a decent, NEW HOME in a >>SAFE LOW CRIME<< neighborhood in Denver, Las Vegas, Los Angeles, San Diego, Miami, Anchorage, Naples FL, Phoenix, Philadelphia, Boston, Hartford, Sacramento, Colorado Springs, Washington DC, Fort Collins, Chicago, Seattle, Portland, Long Island, -- I'll stop so this list doesn't become unending -- for the mentioned $160,000 of the same quality as Syracuse Suburban homes. Unless you are trying to kid yourself or the rest of us, you can't do it! We're talking about the major metro areas of the country not places like Mississippi or remote low population areas where the pay scale is very low or minimum wage.

Don't mention bad weather and other bad conditions which can affect/destroy your home and make you stay in air conditioned buildings & vehicles for months on end unless you are referring to Oklahoma, Texas, Arizona, Nevada, Georgia, and other states with these problems=100+ degree temperatures weeks on end, tornadoes, floods, earthquakes, frequent hail storms, wildfires, drought, etc. If by bad weather you mean that Syracuse/Suburbs have snowfall; yup!, we have that and when the snow melts it supplies/feeds our numerous lakes, rivers, & streams=I bet states like California, Arizona, Utah, Nevada, maybe even Florida & Georgia, northern plains and other states that frequently experience droughts, wish they had OUR water resources! I'll take the snow. You can have the tornadoes, hurricanes, earthquakes, floods, wildfires, incessent hot temperatures, frequent hail storms, etc. that your inferred "grass-is-greener" outlook seems to say about all those other states who have worse weather/aspects.

As for taxes. Yup. Nobody seems to want to pay them. I realize that everything should be FREE/NO COST to anyone. Unfortunately paved roads, schools, police, sewer systems, clean water supply, etc, etc, etc, all cost money. As for myself, because I don't have children maybe I shouldn't have to pay ANY school taxes, also I'd rather that our country would STOP having wars and wasting billions of dollars on bombs & bullets, and I'd prefer that NONE of my tax money could/would be used to bail out the greedy bankers & wall street companies who used their firms as CASINOS while paying themselves millions of dollars as salary & bonuses at the same time their companies were going bankrupt. Sorry, such is life. There's two things you can count on=taxes & death. Let me know if you find any legal/sure way to avoid either of these.
Seriously, you are comparing Syracuse to LA, SD, MIA?

I don't think I will bother further except to leave you with this map that may explain why prices are somewhat low there. Because everyone is moving out.

Map: Where Americans Are Moving - Forbes.com
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Old 08-05-2010, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Hernando County, FL
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As usual Mike is trying to make business down there.
As usual when you have no argument you use the same old tired post.
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Old 08-05-2010, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Albany (school) NYC (home)
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Seriously, you are comparing Syracuse to LA, SD, MIA?

I don't think I will bother further except to leave you with this map that may explain why prices are somewhat low there. Because everyone is moving out.

Map: Where Americans Are Moving - Forbes.com
Dag seems like everyone is leaving Queens & Nassau, there is barely any red lines coming in.


Isn't a brand new house for about 200k quite normal for most metro areas in the country? Basically the whole midwest, southwest, south or everywhere but the Northeast and Westcoast.
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Old 08-05-2010, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Hernando County, FL
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Dag seems like everyone is leaving Queens & Nassau, there is barely any red lines coming in.


Isn't a brand new house for about 200k quite normal for most metro areas in the country? Basically the whole midwest, southwest, south or everywhere but the Northeast and Westcoast.
As noted by 20yrsinBranson even less in some places but yes, I would say outside of the major metros $200K for a new house would be normal in many areas.
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Old 08-05-2010, 04:26 PM
 
Location: 3219'03.7"N 10643'55.9"W
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I think a big, conscious decision one has to ponder when considering Upstate New York is whether or not the cost trade off is worth freezing your ass off for 6-7 months out of the year. I've always said that Upstate NY is one of the most underrated places in the U.S. My family is from there, around Batavia, Alexander, Attica, etc. I've made that drive through the Finger Lakes countless times. However, I've been there mostly in the summer, when, for me, anyways, it's very tolerable. I've also been up there during winter, and it's a semi-permanent gray haze for the 8-9 hours of the day the sun manages to creep above the southern horizon. Some people can handle it, but I don't think I could, not for any extended period of time. I'd rather pay more and have sunshine.
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Old 08-05-2010, 05:44 PM
 
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You challenge me to find a house in Denver area. Okay, I did. I bought a 3/2 with a garage in Broomfield 15-20 minutes outside of Denver 15-20 minutes from Boulder. It is not brand new but close.
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Old 08-05-2010, 07:10 PM
 
Location: where my heart is
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Default You didn't address my post about JOBS

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As usual when you have no argument you use the same old tired post.
No matter how cheap the house or property taxes are if you cannot get a job it is all pointless. What is the unemployment rare in Florida versus NY? POST IT. It's out there. Try to spin it all you want.
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Old 08-05-2010, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Hernando County, FL
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No matter how cheap the house or property taxes are if you cannot get a job it is all pointless. What is the unemployment rare in Florida versus NY? POST IT. It's out there. Try to spin it all you want.
If it is out there why didn't you just post it?

It's no secret that the unemployment rate here is bad, do you think it is good in Onondaga County? There are 17053 people on the unemployment rolls in Onondaga and 8745 on the rolls here.

Guess housing prices and taxes are pointless for those 17053 in Onondaga just as it is for the 8745 here.
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Old 08-06-2010, 09:01 AM
 
Location: where my heart is
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Default You are using numbers and not percentages

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If it is out there why didn't you just post it?

It's no secret that the unemployment rate here is bad, do you think it is good in Onondaga County? There are 17053 people on the unemployment rolls in Onondaga and 8745 on the rolls here.

Guess housing prices and taxes are pointless for those 17053 in Onondaga just as it is for the 8745 here.
Percentages are more relevant. What is the TOTAL population of each place??????? You are trying to make it seem where YOU are has less unemployment.

Florida, along with California and Nevada, has higher unemployment than NY. Of course, it you are just using NUMBERS instead of percentages, a place with a higher population will have more unemployment.

http://www.bls.gov/web/metro/laummtrk.htm

Look at the figures for NY cities. Now look at Florida's cities.
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