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Old 08-14-2010, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Orange, California
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SD is nice in parts, average in parts, and "blah" is parts. Just like every other city.
Well put. But all in all, it has more going for it than most other cities in this country. A lot depends on what a particular person desires in a city. If someone's main requirements for a city are a nice sunny climate and lots of opportunities to engage in water sports (and money is no object in terms of buying a house), then I would say it is an ideal city for that person.
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Old 08-14-2010, 11:49 AM
 
Location: South Park, San Diego
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Well put. But all in all, it has more going for it than most other cities in this country. A lot depends on what a particular person desires in a city. If someone's main requirements for a city are a nice sunny climate and lots of opportunities to engage in water sports (and money is no object in terms of buying a house), then I would say it is an ideal city for that person.
I think most folks immediately latch on to the weather and beach/ocean qualities as the most prominent icons of San Diego, and while this is a great start there is more to the city than that.

It absolutely is not perfect, the descriptions of sprawl, traffic and expense are apt, but they mostly describe the outlying areas. I miss the rain, and wish there were more trees in the area, but the interesting topography with Torrey pine groves and coastal sage with wildlife right on the coast and in the canyons right in the heart of the city make it very livable. Flying into San Diego after the green of spring is gone can look depressingly dry but you can find pockets of lush treed areas if you know where to look- like my garden, right downtown but adjacent one of our great canyons:

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In my opinion what make it a not-quite-great but up-and-coming city are a vibrant, clean and compact downtown; you can actually walk from end to end from the bay to the ballpark, or up to Balboa Park with its over 1200 acres (larger than central park), 15 museums, zoo and theaters. Also, the resurgence of downtown has spilled out to the older street-car suburbs surrounding Balboa Park; each of these neighborhoods has its own renaissance of new restaurants, beer pubs, art and music shows and a population of urbanites investing heavily into the vintage housing stock (like mine SOUTH PARK San Diego ).

San Diego compares nicely with Seattle, Portland, Philadelphia, Minneapolis and Austin as cities that all have generally awesome core areas, and also plenty of blah suburbs and big city problems like traffic and sprawl. Its just that San Diego does have nearly perfect weather, great geography, very low crime and its pretty cool to be able to pop on over to La Jolla Cove and swim with the seals, dolphins, rays and sharks (harmless leopards) in just a few minutes.

I could probably live in each of those cities though as long as I had a cool old house in a great old walkable neighborhood adjacent downtown like I do here; that's the best part in any city.

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Old 08-14-2010, 12:12 PM
 
Location: DC
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I've been to San Diego...I didn't like it at all.

Why do people call San Diego beautiful? Am I missing something? So brown, dry, bland/"plain" looking. I don't find it attractive.

It's also really boring. The people are way too homogeneous.
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Old 08-14-2010, 12:16 PM
 
Location: South Park, San Diego
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I've been to San Diego...I didn't like it at all.

Why do people call San Diego beautiful? Am I missing something? So brown, dry, bland/"plain" looking. I don't really find it attractive.

It's also really boring. The people are way too homogeneous.
You must be a hoot to travel with!
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Old 08-14-2010, 02:04 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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I've been to San Diego...I didn't like it at all.

Why do people call San Diego beautiful? Am I missing something? So brown, dry, bland/"plain" looking. I don't find it attractive.
Yes, you are missing quite a lot cuz you gotta be blind not to see SD's natural beauty. Yeah this type of setting is so "bland/plain" looking:






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It's also really boring. The people are way too homogeneous.
SD offers everything a city it's size elsewhere does plus with a climate and setting that most don't have; professional sports with a downtown stadium, museums, street fests, music fests, beaches, abundant recreational activities, theme parks, deserts and mountains close by, etc.. I guess if you sit in your hotel and don't try to do anything then anyplace will be boring. It's also one of the most diverse metros in the country, it may not have the hyper diversity of NYC or LA but it's more diverse the majority of places out there.

San Diego among major melting pots in the U.S. - SignOnSanDiego.com


SD isn't perfect at all but no city is or comes close. It has many of the same problems as elsewhere but it's in a very unique climate and setting which sets it apart from many other places.
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Old 08-14-2010, 02:30 PM
 
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I've been to San Diego...I didn't like it at all.

Why do people call San Diego beautiful? Am I missing something? So brown, dry, bland/"plain" looking. I don't find it attractive.
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yes, clearly you're blind






















yup, looks ugly to me!
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Old 08-14-2010, 02:58 PM
 
Location: DC
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yes, clearly you're blind















yup, looks ugly to me!

Please hold your horses.

I never said San Diego was ugly. I said it was bland. And I still believe so.

And nothing in any of these pictures impressed me...which brings me back to my original point -- San Diego didn't impress me.

Its a good city for the average American, but not for me. It's good I went, but I can't see myself ever going again. What in San Diego would compel me to go back?
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Old 08-14-2010, 03:06 PM
 
Location: DC
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Yes, you are missing quite a lot cuz you gotta be blind not to see SD's natural beauty. Yeah this type of setting is so "bland/plain" looking:






SD offers everything a city it's size elsewhere does plus with a climate and setting that most don't have; professional sports with a downtown stadium, museums, street fests, music fests, beaches, abundant recreational activities, theme parks, deserts and mountains close by, etc.. I guess if you sit in your hotel and don't try to do anything then anyplace will be boring. It's also one of the most diverse metros in the country, it may not have the hyper diversity of NYC or LA but it's more diverse the majority of places out there.

San Diego among major melting pots in the U.S. - SignOnSanDiego.com


SD isn't perfect at all but no city is or comes close. It has many of the same problems as elsewhere but it's in a very unique climate and setting which sets it apart from many other places.

It may very well be diverse (I don't know but I never really saw it), but the scene is way too Abercrombie & Fitch, aging frat boy for me. And i'm not necessarily talking about racial diversity. The people just seemed too homogeneous.

I prefer someplace a little bit more serious, worldly and sophisticated!
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Old 08-14-2010, 03:09 PM
 
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oh yeah because bland doesn't mean "ugly" Don't kid yourself. you siad it was too brown and I disputed that to show you it is not.








San Diego offers a little of everything. Beaches, weather, mountains, hills, museums, sports teams, theme parks, hiking, biking, and even snow in the mountains. it's close to LA and Mexico. Anyone who says it's bland or ugly is obviously blind. If all you do is sit in your hotel room than yeah anything will be boring. Outside of the museums, Washington DC is boring.
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Old 08-14-2010, 03:11 PM
 
Location: DC
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oh yeah because bland doesn't mean "ugly" Don't kid yourself. you siad it was too brown and I disputed that to show you it is not.








San Diego offers a little of everything. Beaches, weather, mountains, hills, museums, sports teams, theme parks, hiking, biking, and even snow in the mountains. it's close to LA and Mexico. Anyone who says it's bland or ugly is obviously blind. If all you do is sit in your hotel room than yeah anything will be boring. Outside of the museums, Washington DC is boring.
Pick up a dictionary. Bland does not equal ugly.

And thanks for reminding me why San Diego isn't for me -- I don't care about mountains, hills or hiking. I hate outdoorsy things. I only like the beach in very (very) moderate intervals (like 4 times a year-- tops). I certainly don't care about theme parks. At 24, I think I'm a bit too old for theme parks. And the museums in San Diego are what I'd refer to as third-rate (at best).

San Diego just isn't my thing.
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