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Old 08-14-2010, 04:35 AM
 
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I can see DFW surpassing metro Chicago around the same time Houston tops Chicago in city population. Ballpark guess: 2029.
so your saying chicago stays exactly at 10 million until 2029 and dallas gains more then 3.5 million by 2029 ?
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Old 08-14-2010, 07:40 AM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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I can see DFW surpassing metro Chicago around the same time Houston tops Chicago in city population. Ballpark guess: 2029.
If trends continue, I would guess 2040 or so. 2029 seems awfully soon.
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Old 08-14-2010, 08:37 AM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Well Houston is number 4, and Dallas is lke 8th or 9th behind San Antonio so I guess I'll go with Houston. It wil be 10 yearas before Houston passes Chicago. Dalls isn't growing so much as the area around the Metroplex is.
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Old 08-14-2010, 11:27 AM
 
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Well Houston is number 4, and Dallas is lke 8th or 9th behind San Antonio so I guess I'll go with Houston. It wil be 10 yearas before Houston passes Chicago. Dalls isn't growing so much as the area around the Metroplex is.
You think the city of Houston is going to grow by over 600,000 people in the next 10 years?

That's pretty extreme growth.

Houston has almost 3X as much land area as Chicago. I don't know why anyone on either side should worry or think about the impact of that area having more people than Chicago. It's kinda apples to oranges.
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Old 08-16-2010, 10:38 AM
 
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what do you have against cleveland? so you don't think it has anything to offer just because of its' size relative to chicago or its' losing sports teams?
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Old 01-13-2011, 11:58 PM
 
Location: Seattle Area
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City wise I dont see either taking over chicago in the next 10 years, in 15 years I do see Houston pulling ahead also I see DFW pulling ahead in metro population. Like I have said before metro population speaks louder than city population, that said it will take a long time to register in the minds of americans that a texan city is the 3rd largest city.
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Old 01-14-2011, 01:20 AM
 
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Illinois just passed a gigantic income tax increase that will drive hundreds of thousands out-of-state.

They also passed a huge corporate tax increase that changes Illinois from one of the lowest tax states for corporations to worst in the nation.

And now the City of Chicago is considering implementing a massive city income tax.

BTW, Illinois already has the highest sales taxes in the nation.

Long story short- Illinois will be in a world of hurt, especially Chicagoland.

Keep in mind that Chicago has had the largest population loss of any city in the nation from 2000-2010, and that was when taxes were relatively low. Now taxes are skyrocketing, and I guarantee the outflow will be soaring.

So it's really WHEN, not IF, Dallas and Houston surpass Chicago.
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Old 01-14-2011, 01:41 AM
 
Location: Seattle Area
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Illinois just passed a gigantic income tax increase that will drive hundreds of thousands out-of-state.

They also passed a huge corporate tax increase that changes Illinois from one of the lowest tax states for corporations to worst in the nation.

And now the City of Chicago is considering implementing a massive city income tax.

BTW, Illinois already has the highest sales taxes in the nation.

Long story short- Illinois will be in a world of hurt, especially Chicagoland.

Keep in mind that Chicago has had the largest population loss of any city in the nation from 2000-2010, and that was when taxes were relatively low. Now taxes are skyrocketing, and I guarantee the outflow will be soaring.

So it's really WHEN, not IF, Dallas and Houston surpass Chicago.
What is the total percentage now? Chicagoland is massive so it's possible that CBD's could pop out in other parts of the metro to get away from the income tax increase if it goes through. If people do start leaving Chicago where do you think they will head to? I know Arizona has been a popular destination for ex Chi-towners.
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Old 01-14-2011, 01:50 AM
 
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If people do start leaving Chicago where do you think they will head to? I know Arizona has been a popular destination for ex Chi-towners.
I think AZ will be a huge destination.

Also look to Indiana and Wisconsin.

Indiana has very low taxes, and Chicago's South Side suburbs are declining. Throw in massively higher taxes, and it's easier to just move across the Indiana state line.

Wisconsin doesn't have Indiana's super-low taxes, but their new governor has promised to slash Wisconsin taxes. So I think they will be very competitive and steal some of Chicagoland's corporate and population base.

Heck, even NJ announced they're going to try and take Illinois companies. NJ Governor Chris Christie announced he will open an office dedicated to recruiting Illinois corporations.

The thing is, you can't tax your way to prosperity.

I'm not really an economic conservative, and I think tax increases are sometimes justified, but MASSIVE tax increases when all the other states are holding taxes steady or dropping them is economic suicide, IMO.
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Old 01-14-2011, 05:18 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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More lies from dementor.
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