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Unread 08-17-2010, 10:33 PM
 
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frequency of yall in the US by state. statistics from here. click on state and scroll down to the question "50. What word(s) do you use to address a group of two or more people? " to see what percent claim to use yall
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Unread 08-17-2010, 11:54 PM
 
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frequency of yall in the US by state. statistics from here. click on state and scroll down to the question "50. What word(s) do you use to address a group of two or more people? " to see what percent claim to use yall
According to your link, only 4% of people here in Illinois use the word yall? Seriouly? Because with a 17% black population, I highly highly doubt it's that low.
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Unread 08-18-2010, 12:40 AM
 
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It's far more a Southern thing than a NYC thing. Most of the people who say "y'all" up North have roots in the South. Almost everyone down South says "y'all"
So? Just because you're from the South makes you more "educated" about the word "y'all"? That makes no sense to me lol.

Most people I hear say y'all too, I never heard "you all" in my life. Some older family members say "youse" as well as "y'all".
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Unread 08-18-2010, 12:45 AM
 
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frequency of yall in the US by state. statistics from here. click on state and scroll down to the question "50. What word(s) do you use to address a group of two or more people? " to see what percent claim to use yall
I wonder why Long Island is darker than the rest of NY State.

I think more states should be darker.
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Unread 08-18-2010, 05:15 AM
 
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Just wondering. I was watching the news, and during a bit on Rod Blagoyevich's trial they were playing a tape in which he says "y'all" as natural as you please. If a guy from Chicago uses it in a serious manner without hesitation does that mean it has become an accepted part of American English?
no, not necessarily; depends who you're talking about.

"y'all" is a very commonly heard term in non-southern cities such as nyc, philly, chicago, detroit, sf/oakland, and los angeles among african-americans and others with roots in the south. that's probably whom most of the non-southern posters in this thread are referring to when they say they've heard that term in their area.

but you'd be hard-pressed to find a white/asian/latino/arab native of those cities who's ever said "y'all" in a serious, non-ironic context, if at all (blagojevich might be the rare exception). i am a native northeasterner (nyc metro) and have never used that term, nor have i ever heard it used by friends, colleagues, and strangers who are not af-am. same thing in the other aforementioned cities - "y'all" has exclusively been a black/african-american/southern transplant thing from my experience.

as far as i can tell, the term is still not accepted, commonplace, or considered standard among non-af-ams in many of the nation's large, non-southern metros, and probably not in many northern/western rural areas, either.

that said, i wouldn't be shocked if "y'all" is used by some whites living in very rural, non-metropolitan areas of the midwest (southern indiana? southeast ohio?) and mid-atlantic (western maryland? southern delaware? deep south central pennsylvania?). not sure about this, though.
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Unread 08-18-2010, 07:23 AM
 
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According to your link, only 4% of people here in Illinois use the word yall? Seriouly? Because with a 17% black population, I highly highly doubt it's that low.
first off, it says that 6 percent of illinoisians use yall and 15 percent of the state is black. that out of the way, not all black people have retained usage of yall. ive met quite a few in the west that say you guys. maybe illinois is way different, but personally ive met plenty of black people who dont use yall. plus, maybe they say yall sometimes but also say you guys more and just answered the question that way. i didnt take the polling. could be that they didnt factor in black/white to their polling, but i doubt that since it was done by harvard proffessors. for some reason i think theyd've thought of that.
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I wonder why Long Island is darker than the rest of NY State.

I think more states should be darker.
the statistics were done by state. long island is part of new york and wasnt polled separately. given that that map is from wikipedia, its probably a mistake in the map because the numbers it was based off only have statistics for new york state as a whole.


and by the way, in central kentucky i really have heard the phrase "you all" to substitute yall from some people. as in "are you all coming?" and even "is that your all's car?". all of people say yall, but some say it split up. they also say "who all's coming tonight?". although the phrase "see yall" when leaving somewhere will often be said by "you all"ers

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Unread 08-18-2010, 11:53 AM
 
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I use it. Heard it every place I've lived and at my age, I really don't consider it to be a Southernism.
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Unread 08-18-2010, 11:56 AM
 
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Why is it even being discussed "how" it sounds in the South. Due to the size and varying degrees of people/classes you'll find in the South, the "Southern Accent" varies quite a bit from state to state, different parts of the state, different cities, etc. It's more of a template rather than a standard. Because of that, it's totally believable that someone hasn't heard a particular variation of "y'all".
Very good point...pronunciations vary throughout the South and throughout the U.S. A lot depends on if a person is from a rural/urban/suburban location, if he/she is educated beyond high school, and which state or even which region within each state he/she is from. I'm not sure why we are even discussing how the word is pronounced...that is definitely an individual thing.

As a teacher, I always use a combination of you/yall/you guys/etc. to refer to my class.
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Unread 08-18-2010, 12:10 PM
 
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I don't know what you people are talking about. Here in Connecticut, I never ever hear "y'all" being used by anyone. In fact, I don't think any New England state uses that word. Instead, we say "you guys." The word "y'all" is very southern and midwestern. No one uses it here, period.
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Unread 08-18-2010, 01:47 PM
 
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I don't know what you people are talking about. Here in Connecticut, I never ever hear "y'all" being used by anyone. In fact, I don't think any New England state uses that word. Instead, we say "you guys." The word "y'all" is very southern and midwestern. No one uses it here, period.
I agree; it's not used at all in New England.

It's just "you guys" here..
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