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Old 07-05-2008, 12:33 PM
 
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Hello, What do you think is a good state to live where:

There is low crime
good school
safe neighbors
smaller town/ city feel
good jobs (teaching)
and lots of snow, or at least average amount

thanks.
Colorado
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Old 07-05-2008, 03:41 PM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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Anywhere in northern New England - Maine, New Hampshire, or Vermont.

New Hampshire is currently ranked as both the #1 "most livable state" and the #1 safest state by CQ Press. Maine and Vermont are also ranked very high on both lists, being the 2nd and 4th safest states in the country, respectively.

The New England states are also known for their high standards of education and all six are ranked within the top 15. (Vermont is #1) I'd say it's probably a good part of the country to look for a teaching job.

Northern New England is also well-known for its small towns and villages with centralized populations. New Hampshire only has 11 towns and cities with more than 20,000 people; Maine has 8 and Vermont only has one.

And we also get the most snow east of the Rockies, from the mountains to the beach.
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Old 07-05-2008, 07:26 PM
 
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Colorado is honestly probably the most well-rounded. Followed by maybe Massachusetts or NJ.
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Old 07-06-2008, 02:42 AM
 
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Colorado if you can take the winters. IMO the most beautiful stae in the union but did i say its cold.Its cold. beautiful summers for about two months.
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Old 07-06-2008, 03:14 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Northwestern NJ!!!! Pick yourself up off the floor. It's extremely safe, excellent schools, wonderful friendly people, small town feel (my particular town has about 17K pop, and I swear sometimes I feel I know all of them -we also made a list of 100 safest towns in the US), great teaching oppys where you can make close to 6 figures, and we get more snow than NYC (i'd say on average close to twice as much). I liken this area to more New England-y than NY/NJ metro.

Which towns are you referring to and what is this area like for black professionals? Thanks.
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Old 07-06-2008, 06:02 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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Verseau, where did you get your population figures? Maine does NOT have 8 cities that are over 200,000. Maines largest city is Portland which has just under 65,000. Total state population is around 1.3 million. Now over 20,000 I could see, and even that would be a stretch, I can think of 4 off the top of my hear and I lived there off and on for 20 years up until last month.

I have looked at the states ranking from the link you have posted before and frankly it is (like all lists) skewed. I have been to several different schools myself across the country and have had my kids in different schools across a couple of states, Maine doesn't come close to other states in overall education than several that are ranked much lower. That list favors states that are smaller in size and population over states that have larger populations, and more diversity in their school systems. I think everybody loses sight of the fact you do not deal with a statewide school system but school systems on an individual town/regional level. Every "bad" state has excellent schools in them ans well as every "good" state has bad schools in them. A state ranking of "smartness" doesn't hold water under closer observation. It has to be curriculum of schools that are looked at and not how much money is spent per child, as well as the basis for what is considered " Proficient or Better" in those states. A state that expects/demands less from their general population students will naturally rank much higher than states that expect/demand more from those same students on the list you linked to based on the criteria they use to determine ranking.
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Old 07-06-2008, 07:16 AM
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Location: Suburban Dallas
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Verseau, where did you get your population figures? Maine does NOT have 8 cities that are over 200,000. Maines largest city is Portland which has just under 65,000. Total state population is around 1.3 million. Now over 20,000 I could see, and even that would be a stretch, I can think of 4 off the top of my hear and I lived there off and on for 20 years up until last month.

I have looked at the states ranking from the link you have posted before and frankly it is (like all lists) skewed. I have been to several different schools myself across the country and have had my kids in different schools across a couple of states, Maine doesn't come close to other states in overall education than several that are ranked much lower. That list favors states that are smaller in size and population over states that have larger populations, and more diversity in their school systems. I think everybody loses sight of the fact you do not deal with a statewide school system but school systems on an individual town/regional level. Every "bad" state has excellent schools in them ans well as every "good" state has bad schools in them. A state ranking of "smartness" doesn't hold water under closer observation. It has to be curriculum of schools that are looked at and not how much money is spent per child, as well as the basis for what is considered " Proficient or Better" in those states. A state that expects/demands less from their general population students will naturally rank much higher than states that expect/demand more from those same students on the list you linked to based on the criteria they use to determine ranking.
He said twenty thousand. You need to read it again.
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Old 07-06-2008, 07:18 AM
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Default Texas

My pick for best state to live is an easy one. Texas. In spite of the summer heat, we do have great weather year-round. We also have great cities that are continuing to add business opportunities and people.


Come on down sometime.
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Old 07-06-2008, 07:26 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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He said twenty thousand. You need to read it again.
WOW, must have been a long night . Oops, my mistake.
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Old 07-06-2008, 09:07 AM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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I have looked at the states ranking from the link you have posted before and frankly it is (like all lists) skewed. I have been to several different schools myself across the country and have had my kids in different schools across a couple of states, Maine doesn't come close to other states in overall education than several that are ranked much lower. That list favors states that are smaller in size and population over states that have larger populations, and more diversity in their school systems. I think everybody loses sight of the fact you do not deal with a statewide school system but school systems on an individual town/regional level. Every "bad" state has excellent schools in them ans well as every "good" state has bad schools in them. A state ranking of "smartness" doesn't hold water under closer observation. It has to be curriculum of schools that are looked at and not how much money is spent per child, as well as the basis for what is considered " Proficient or Better" in those states. A state that expects/demands less from their general population students will naturally rank much higher than states that expect/demand more from those same students on the list you linked to based on the criteria they use to determine ranking.
I'm not suggesting that those lists are a foolproof guide to state education systems, but the fact that those states are ranked at the top of the list and not the bottom should at least mean something. Of course schools vary dramatically by town to town, but having spoken to people who were once teachers in one of the lower-ranked states (like California), they were significantly more satisfied with their positions in New England. I know it's anecdotal evidence, but I don't see any reason why northern New England *wouldn't* be a good location for the OP.
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