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Old 08-30-2010, 10:44 PM
 
Location: Savannah GA
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What does "not matured yet" mean anyway? Are you saying all those cities above "ascendant" are mature? Maturity has a lot of different meanings but I don't think any of them can be applied to a city. Are you saying that New York, Chicago, L.A., Washington have reached their peak and are now in decline? Are you suggesting there's a threshold at which those other cities will reach "maturity" and stop growing? Or changing? Or evolving? Or improving?

Explain ... if you can please.
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Old 08-30-2010, 11:45 PM
 
Location: The canyon (with my pistols and knife)
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To me, mature cities are those that are economically stable, have an unquestionably urban built environment, and are known globally with generally good reputations domestically.

The "ascendant" cities are economic dynamos, but have built environments that aren't yet mature, and don't necessarily have global reputations yet.
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Old 08-31-2010, 05:54 AM
 
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I think so too. I would certainly not rank them above any cities in the Crossroads Category.
really? st. louis and baltimore are larger metro areas than every city in the crossroads category save for detroit. pittsburgh is also larger than most of them. anyway, this does not appear to be a ranking of size or influence as much as socioeconomic.
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Old 08-31-2010, 06:20 AM
 
Location: BMORE!
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Baltimore Cincinnati Pittsburgh St. Louis Portland Raleigh San Antonio all seem to be rated too high...
Visit Baltimore before you make that ASSumption.
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Old 08-31-2010, 06:57 AM
 
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Lists like this crack me up. People that take them seriously crack me up more.
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Old 08-31-2010, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Orlando - South
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GAWC World Cities - The World's Most Important Cities

^^^This list is easier to understand
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Old 08-31-2010, 08:38 AM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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I have trouble with your last category. You identify "Borderline Major" but you don't have a "Major" category. So, one doesn't have a reference to what "Major" means in this context. If I formulate in my own mind what "Major" might mean, I don't come up with the list of cities you identify.

I also wouldn't put Pittsburgh in a "Resurgent" category. It's a lovely city and I really like it but it's not showing qualities that I'd consider resurgent. Unfortunately, I'd say that it's inert.
I also wouldn't say that Oakland is "Ascendant". It's stable but it's certainly not behaving like a the word suggests. In fact, I think the word better describes the entire list you say is "Notably Emergent". That list is better represented by the word "Ascendant".

Lastly, I don't know if the order of your list is supposed to represent some sort of hierarchy or not.
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Old 08-31-2010, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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Two problems:

1) Oakland and San Diego do not belong with the other cities on that list. They should be pushed down a category.

2) Atlanta, Dallas, Houston, Miami, and Philly should be in the same category on virtually any list.
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Old 08-31-2010, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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GAWC World Cities - The World's Most Important Cities

^^^This list is easier to understand
I agree, that list is easier and I agree with it mostly except I personally don't see Atlanta and Dallas being rated higher than Houston - in my opinion those three cities are on the same level.
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Old 08-31-2010, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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I agree, that list is easier and I agree with it mostly except I personally don't see Atlanta and Dallas being rated higher than Houston - in my opinion those three cities are on the same level.
I agree. They are interchangeable to me.
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