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Old 07-08-2007, 03:30 PM
 
Location: dayton
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Old 07-08-2007, 07:49 PM
 
Location: NW suburbs
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I think its well known now that anyone with a badge in one way shape or form is going to take advantage of their situation and get on a power trip.
 
Old 10-07-2007, 09:03 PM
 
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The Detroit Police Department gets my vote...
 
Old 10-08-2007, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Southern California native, last 20 yrs in Milwaukee Wisc.
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I honestly have never thought of Milwaukee to be crime infested but apparently it is. Kind of sad.
Yeah, pretty bad in Milwaukee. The north side and large parts of the northwest side are dysfunctional and crime ridden. The last 2 police chiefs have been unqualified, affirmative action appointees (one a black male, the current a white female). Both have done a terrible job. They're terrified of being politically incorrect, and cracking down on the people and groups who need it. Then you add the rather noisy "community activists", constantly complaining about police "racism" and other nonsense, further hampering efforts at effctive law enforcement.
Most of the individual cops are OK. The mayor, city council, and the MPD leadership are the main problem.
 
Old 10-08-2007, 09:04 AM
 
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The Midwest alone leads the nation in terms of the most dangerous cities. Detroit, St. Louis, Chicago, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Kansas City, Minneapolis, and Milwaukee are all among the most crime-ridden cities in the nation and desperately need that strong leadership of which you speak. These major Midwestern cities really need to get rid of their reputation as nests of crime. I really hope the Midwest has a better future for crime because I see it get worse here every year.
That's an interesting statement. I question whether it is true, mainly because the 2006 FBI crime data came out a week or so ago. These are the top 10 most dangerous metropolitan areas in the country, based on violent crime:

1. Memphis 1,262.7
2. Sumter, S.C. 1,244.0
3. Shreveport, La. 1,187.9
4. Florence, S.C. 1,160.6
5. Saginaw, Mich. 1,089.8
6. Alexandria, La. 1,067.4
7. Gainesville, Fla. 934.1
8. Anchorage, Alaska 932.3
9. Flint, Mich. 929.6
10. Salisbury, Md. 907.6

I don't see midwestern cities being overly-represented. I looked at Milwaukee, Minneapolis, Cleveland, Cincy, and they all seemed to be safer than most big cities. Detroit was very high, but it was still lower than a lot of southern cities. In the case of your city, St. Louis (2.7 million ppl), it conveniently happens to sit right next to my hometown of Sumter, SC (107k people) in the table I'm looking at. I realize there's a big population gap, but statistically, STL looks pretty safe:

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2006/data/documents/06tbl06.xls (broken link)

Murders per 100k people:
Sumter: 9.3, STL: 6.6

Assaults per 100k people:
Sumter: 1064, STL: 369

Overall violent crimes per 100k people:
Sumter: 1244, STL: 566

Nor does the FBI's regional map shows that the midwest as a whole is relatively safe:
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2006/images/content_images/regcrimefig.gif (broken link)
 
Old 10-08-2007, 11:01 AM
 
Location: St. Louis, MO
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That's an interesting statement. I question whether it is true, mainly because the 2006 FBI crime data came out a week or so ago. These are the top 10 most dangerous metropolitan areas in the country, based on violent crime:

1. Memphis 1,262.7
2. Sumter, S.C. 1,244.0
3. Shreveport, La. 1,187.9
4. Florence, S.C. 1,160.6
5. Saginaw, Mich. 1,089.8
6. Alexandria, La. 1,067.4
7. Gainesville, Fla. 934.1
8. Anchorage, Alaska 932.3
9. Flint, Mich. 929.6
10. Salisbury, Md. 907.6

I don't see midwestern cities being overly-represented. I looked at Milwaukee, Minneapolis, Cleveland, Cincy, and they all seemed to be safer than most big cities. Detroit was very high, but it was still lower than a lot of southern cities. In the case of your city, St. Louis (2.7 million ppl), it conveniently happens to sit right next to my hometown of Sumter, SC (107k people) in the table I'm looking at. I realize there's a big population gap, but statistically, STL looks pretty safe:

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2006/data/documents/06tbl06.xls (broken link)

Murders per 100k people:
Sumter: 9.3, STL: 6.6

Assaults per 100k people:
Sumter: 1064, STL: 369

Overall violent crimes per 100k people:
Sumter: 1244, STL: 566

Nor does the FBI's regional map shows that the midwest as a whole is relatively safe:
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2006/images/content_images/regcrimefig.gif (broken link)

I was talking about the city limits themselves, not the actual metro areas. Where metro areas are concerned, yes, I agree 100% the Midwest is not the most dangerous. St. Louis in its metro area ranked only 130th in terms of most dangerous. it's no wonder Memphis is featured on "The First 48" so often hehe.
 
Old 10-08-2007, 03:12 PM
 
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I am not surprised that the South has the highest crime rate. If motor vehicle crime was included the South would probably be off the charts. Driving in most fla. cities is a challenge and the police culture that fails to enforce the law is highly responsible.
 
Old 10-08-2007, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Boise
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Meridian, Id is a small town, but the police do a great job, of doing a horrible job. They'd rather send an inocent woman to jail for murder, than admit that they botched the investigation, true story.
 
Old 10-08-2007, 04:08 PM
 
Location: moving again
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I've heard bmore police are horrible, but ive never had to deal with them so i don't speak from experience

(PS: that maps wrong, MD is not the south )
 
Old 10-08-2007, 07:03 PM
 
Location: St. Louis, MO
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I've heard bmore police are horrible, but ive never had to deal with them so i don't speak from experience

(PS: that maps wrong, MD is not the south )
Nor is Delaware. Oklahoma, West Virginia and Texas are debatable.
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