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Old 09-23-2010, 10:29 PM
 
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Charlotte seems to only have 1. I'm surprised, especially with the Belks and the Levines. I guess they're not as rich as I thought.
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Old 09-24-2010, 06:12 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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The number of Billionaires has really exploded in the past years. I remember in the 80's billionaires were extremely rare. You didn't have many in the World period. But most of this is due to lessening value of the American dollar. A billion dollars is not nearly as much as it used to be. In fact, you could buy as much with 250 million in the early 80's as you can with a billion today.
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Old 09-24-2010, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Northridge, Los Angeles, CA
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The number of Billionaires has really exploded in the past years. I remember in the 80's billionaires were extremely rare. You didn't have many in the World period. But most of this is due to lessening value of the American dollar. A billion dollars is not nearly as much as it used to be. In fact, you could buy as much with 250 million in the early 80's as you can with a billion today.
At least the US economy didn't go the way of Zimbabwe in terms of hyperinflation. If that were the case, we'd ALL be billionaires! People would have interviews on TV asking "How did you become a billionaire so quickly?" to which the reply is "Well, I was watching TV and looked through the couch and found some change....."

Interesting to compare 2010 to 2000:
Forbes.com: Forbes 400 Richest in America (http://www.forbes.com/lists/results.jhtml?passListId=54&passYear=2000&passList Type=Person&resultsStart=1&resultsHowMany=25&resul tsSortProperties=-numberfield2%2C%2Bstringfield1&resultsSortCategory Name=worth - broken link)

In 2000, the lowest cutoff to be on the Forbes 400 was $725 million
In 2010, the lowest cutoff to be on the Forbes 400 was $1 billion

The consumer price index in 2000 was 172.2
The consumer price index in 2010 is 218.3 (source: ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/special.requests/cpi/cpiai.txt (broken link))

Using that metric, the value of the 400 richest Americans has collectively gone up by 6.8% ($1 billion in today's value could have bought $774 million back in 2000). While that may kind of be good, this is actually one of the lowest decade increases the US has had in a long time....

California in 2000 had 107 residents on the Forbes 400
California in 2010 had 84 residents on the Forbes 400
*A resounding "OUCH!" is in order!

New York State in 2000 had 47 residents on the Forbes 400
New York State in 2010 had 65 residents on the Forbes 400

Texas in 2000 had 34 residents on the Forbes 400
Texas in 2010 had 45 residents on the Forbes 400

Looks like the reason California lost out big in the 2000s is due to:
1) Tech bubble burst
2) Real estate market EXPLOSION!

Not a good decade at all for my home state. I hope we haven't hit the floor yet. To think, if the rich got hit that hard, imagine the average CA resident? Oh well, nothing left to do but learn from it and get back on track, eh?
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Old 09-24-2010, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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Large Northern Great Lakes States plus PA (PA,IN,OH,MI,WI,MN,IL) = 57
NYC = 56

It took 7 states with large populations and economies to equal one city.. Wow!
This only includes NYC proper and not the entire metro area.
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Old 09-24-2010, 10:58 PM
 
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Large Northern Great Lakes States plus PA (PA,IN,OH,MI,WI,MN,IL) = 57
NYC = 56

It took 7 states with large populations and economies to equal one city.. Wow!
This only includes NYC proper and not the entire metro area.
Wow! That is pretty impressive.
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Old 09-25-2010, 12:01 AM
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Optimistic part for any ambitious kid is lots of F400 (BTW a notoriously inaccurate list) are self-made guys, unlike any other country in world

Really splits based upon industries...where tech has many of youngest guys, followed by finance

Suspect nearly all of SF's billionaires live/work in PaloAlto/Woodside/Atherton area, followed by SF's PacHts, to be proximate to their SiliconValley offices....elite regions w/a total population of maybe 100K people (vs SF region's ~6MM people)

NYC region's billionaires nearly all reside on Manhattan's UES and UWS nr CentPk and Midtown offices, an area w/maybe 250K population, vs ~18MM in entire region

LA region looks rather lame given its ~18MM population yet so few billionaires (and many/most are near-death age), despite flash and show of Westside

On per capita basis, interesting how concentrated is world's wealth, IQ and innovation around the leafy suburban PaloAlto area, a car-centric area with no skyline, no classic downtown or epicenter, no nightlife, yet where future Apples, googles and facebooks are most likely to emerge in coming yrs, perhaps from future Stanford Engineering alums, as opposed to places w/Luddite economies, "traditional" cities and/or lib arts colleges
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Old 09-25-2010, 12:09 AM
 
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around here there are not rich men.
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Old 09-25-2010, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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Optimistic part for any ambitious kid is lots of F400 (BTW a notoriously inaccurate list) are self-made guys, unlike any other country in world

Really splits based upon industries...where tech has many of youngest guys, followed by finance

Suspect nearly all of SF's billionaires live/work in PaloAlto/Woodside/Atherton area, followed by SF's PacHts, to be proximate to their SiliconValley offices....elite regions w/a total population of maybe 100K people (vs SF region's ~6MM people)

NYC region's billionaires nearly all reside on Manhattan's UES and UWS nr CentPk and Midtown offices, an area w/maybe 250K population, vs ~18MM in entire region

LA region looks rather lame given its ~18MM population yet so few billionaires (and many/most are near-death age), despite flash and show of Westside

On per capita basis, interesting how concentrated is world's wealth, IQ and innovation around the leafy suburban PaloAlto area, a car-centric area with no skyline, no classic downtown or epicenter, no nightlife, yet where future Apples, googles and facebooks are most likely to emerge in coming yrs, perhaps from future Stanford Engineering alums, as opposed to places w/Luddite economies, "traditional" cities and/or lib arts colleges


Yet the % of the nation's richest are shrinking in California. In 2000 California had 26% of the top 400, now only 21%. The list tells us that NYC metro is growing and California is declining. With outsourcing of the tech empire to Asia, I wouldn't be surprised to see California continue to shrink on this list in the future.
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Old 09-25-2010, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Northridge, Los Angeles, CA
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Yet the % of the nation's richest are shrinking in California. In 2000 California had 26% of the top 400, now only 21%. The list tells us that NYC metro is growing and California is declining. With outsourcing of the tech empire to Asia, I wouldn't be surprised to see California continue to shrink on this list in the future.
But for all that outsourcing, none of the wealth is actually being generated overseas. When's the last time something like a Google, Facebook, or YouTube was thought up in Asia? All the grunt work is done there, but none of the innovation is. It's akin to an American manufacturing magnate opening up a plant in the 3rd world; while it MAY be good that the plant opened in the 3rd world since it will increase technological know-how, it doesn't exactly make the locals rich.

Overall though, this past decade was probably the worst in terms of economic downturns for California since the 1930s. As much as it sucks now, boom and bust periods aren't exactly new to California. That's the nature of how the economy is...very Darwinian. Trends don't last forever.
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Old 09-25-2010, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Southwest Suburbs
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Illinois= 19 billionaires

Chicago- 12

Chicago suburbs in Illinois- 7 and all of them are on the North Shore

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