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Old 07-02-2007, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland area
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In your own opinion, what is the average American like?
Pay, college degrees, location, etc.

I started this thread because it should be fun to see what some people consider average.
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Old 07-02-2007, 12:51 PM
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Pay 35-50k, some college, suburbs.
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Old 07-02-2007, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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In your own opinion, what is the average American like?
Pay, college degrees, location, etc.
Well it's hard to say because of all the variables but a pretty good representation would be something like:

Single:
$50K-$70K/ year
College degree
Suburban house worth around $300K-$400K
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Old 07-02-2007, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Bayside, NY
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Salary: $28,000 a year
High School Grad
House worth: $215,000
Married
1.75 kids
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Old 07-02-2007, 05:26 PM
 
Location: In God
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Salary: $28,000 a year
High School Grad
House worth: $215,000
Married
1.75 kids
This is more like it. I don't know where all of these other posters are from, though.
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Old 07-02-2007, 06:53 PM
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Personal income in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 07-02-2007, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Polish Hill, Pittsburgh, PA
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Smile The Rant of an "Average" American Youth

-I think the "average" American has completed high school and has completed some college coursework with no degree, having dropped out either due to financial difficulty, family hardship, discouragement over a deteriorating GPA, or some other reason.

-I think the "average" American pines to achieve a level of upward vertical mobility that will be largely-unattainable for them, so they "fake" it by using credit cards to dig themselves into $10,000 or more of credit card debt to purchase newer vehicles and gadgets that permit them to appear on an even keel with those in a slightly-higher social class. (i.e. "keeping up with the Jones's).

-I think the "average" American gripes about high fuel prices before hopping into their large, gas-guzzling SUV or pick-up truck and driving to their non-truck-related 9-5 job, which truly puts them in no position to be outraged over rising fuel prices when they are doing nothing to help curb the demand side.

-I think the "average" American believes in some sort of higher being, whether it be God, Allah, Moses, Aunt Jemima, or whatever else.

-I think the "average" American has been fooled into a false sense of security in suburbia with their poorly-built vinyl-clad McMansions on postage-stamp sized lots and sidewalk-less neighborhoods where their children become morbidly obese from not being able to walk anywhere and not being able to leave the home without being driven to that destination by their parents, who are too busy working longer and longer hours to acquire more "stuff" to do so.

-I think the "average" American has been brainwashed by FoxNews, Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, President Bush, and the rest of the extreme religious right into believing that we gay individuals are unworthy of compassion, common courtesy, or, more importantly, equality due to unfounded jibberish about catching AIDS through handshakes or molesting children.

-I think the "average" American is conceited and ethnocentric, believing that their nation is supreme in relation to all other "subservient" nations as opposed to believing that all men are created equally, as is even stated in our own Constitution, which they conveniently overlook due to sheer laziness.

-I think the "average" American couldn't care less that the $5 t-shirt they just bought at Wal-Mart was forged at the hands of cruel labor practices in developing nations as Sam Walton rolls over in his grave to see his once-wholesome store transformed into an uncaring empire.

- I think the "average" American may come off as being self-absorbed, strongly-opinionated, and even callous on some levels, but all are compassionate beings who band together to help one another through times of severe adversity and mental anguish (think 9/11, Virginia Tech, Columbine, PA Amish School Bloodbath, Oklahoma City, etc.)

-I think the "average" American is prejudiced and biased at least on a minimal extent towards certain minority groups for one petty reason or another, as much as even the most liberal ones claim not to be.

-I think the "average" American has misguided priorites in that he/she will be more concerned with Paris Hilton's latest sexual escapade than they are worried about keeping our brave men and women in their prayers during this extreme time of war and strife.

-I think the "average" American doesn't thoroughly research a candidate before voting for him or her in an election. This is evidenced by the fact that the majority of our nation voted to re-elect President Bush in 2004 while more than 20% of those same people have now grown to be included in the nearly 70% who disapprove of his job performance as of late. Fickle, anyone?

-I think the "average" American couldn't care less about global climate shifts as long as it will only threaten their offspring and not their current generation.

-I think the "average" American complains incessantly about a rise in milk prices to help our struggling dairy farmers to make ends meat while they stand and pump premium gas into their Lexus SUVs and Suburbans at $3.50/gallon.

-I think the "average" American hasn't read a novel in at least a year, if not longer.

-I think the "average" American couldn't tell you who Nancy Pelosi was, but they could most certainly tell you who Clay Aiken is.

-I think the "average" American has forgotten that turn signals come standard on every vehicle made nowadays, and they are there for more than just "decoration."

-I think the "average" American doesn't realize the hurtful, heart-wrenching impact using slurs such as "retard", "***", etc. can have upon those who truly are mentally or physically-challenged and/or homosexual.

-I think the "average" American is secretly thinking "I'll run out and buy an Audi A8 tomorrow to upstage the Jones's Audi A6" when hiding those sinful true feelings of envy and congratulating their next-door neighbor's purchase of a brand new vehicle that they saved for for a number of years.

-I think the "average" American is lying when they claim that physical appearance doesn't weigh heavily in their decision to pursue a romantic relationship with someone.

-I think the "average" American loves to find some political agenda to latch onto in order to hope that the focus of others will be shifted away from their own shortcomings, which are protested by others at the same time. For example, why not protest gay marriage in order to shift attention away from invading foreign nations without having credible intelligence sources beforehand? Why not protest abortion in order to shift attention away from one's recent drunk-driving arrest?

-I think the "average" American is an armchair quarterback who believes he/she can do much, much better than the politicians who are currently in office but will never get off their derrieres to consider actually running for that same post themselves in the next election.

-I think the "average" American has some sort of erotic fantasy that they have always wanted to live out but are too ashamed to broach with their sexual partners to ever make it a reality.

...shall I continue?
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Old 07-02-2007, 08:13 PM
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This is more like it. I don't know where all of these other posters are from, though.
Actually, I wasn't too far off. According to the census (http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/income_wealth/002484.html - broken link)
"Real median household income remained unchanged between 2002 and 2003 in three of the four census regions Northeast ($46,742), Midwest ($44,732) and West ($46,820). The exception was the South, where income declined 1.5 percent. The South continued to have the lowest median household income of all four regions ($39,823). The difference between median household incomes in the Northeast and West was not statistically significant."

And according to the good folks at Wiki, approximately 60% of US adults have some college under their belt, but no degree.
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Old 07-02-2007, 08:24 PM
 
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-I think the "average" American has completed high school and has completed some college coursework with no degree, having dropped out either due to financial difficulty, family hardship, discouragement over a deteriorating GPA, or some other reason.

-I think the "average" American pines to achieve a level of upward vertical mobility that will be largely-unattainable for them, so they "fake" it by using credit cards to dig themselves into $10,000 or more of credit card debt to purchase newer vehicles and gadgets that permit them to appear on an even keel with those in a slightly-higher social class. (i.e. "keeping up with the Jones's).

-I think the "average" American gripes about high fuel prices before hopping into their large, gas-guzzling SUV or pick-up truck and driving to their non-truck-related 9-5 job, which truly puts them in no position to be outraged over rising fuel prices when they are doing nothing to help curb the demand side.

-I think the "average" American believes in some sort of higher being, whether it be God, Allah, Moses, Aunt Jemima, or whatever else.

-I think the "average" American has been fooled into a false sense of security in suburbia with their poorly-built vinyl-clad McMansions on postage-stamp sized lots and sidewalk-less neighborhoods where their children become morbidly obese from not being able to walk anywhere and not being able to leave the home without being driven to that destination by their parents, who are too busy working longer and longer hours to acquire more "stuff" to do so.

-I think the "average" American has been brainwashed by FoxNews, Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, President Bush, and the rest of the extreme religious right into believing that we gay individuals are unworthy of compassion, common courtesy, or, more importantly, equality due to unfounded jibberish about catching AIDS through handshakes or molesting children.

-I think the "average" American is conceited and ethnocentric, believing that their nation is supreme in relation to all other "subservient" nations as opposed to believing that all men are created equally, as is even stated in our own Constitution, which they conveniently overlook due to sheer laziness.

-I think the "average" American couldn't care less that the $5 t-shirt they just bought at Wal-Mart was forged at the hands of cruel labor practices in developing nations as Sam Walton rolls over in his grave to see his once-wholesome store transformed into an uncaring empire.

- I think the "average" American may come off as being self-absorbed, strongly-opinionated, and even callous on some levels, but all are compassionate beings who band together to help one another through times of severe adversity and mental anguish (think 9/11, Virginia Tech, Columbine, PA Amish School Bloodbath, Oklahoma City, etc.)

-I think the "average" American is prejudiced and biased at least on a minimal extent towards certain minority groups for one petty reason or another, as much as even the most liberal ones claim not to be.

-I think the "average" American has misguided priorites in that he/she will be more concerned with Paris Hilton's latest sexual escapade than they are worried about keeping our brave men and women in their prayers during this extreme time of war and strife.

-I think the "average" American doesn't thoroughly research a candidate before voting for him or her in an election. This is evidenced by the fact that the majority of our nation voted to re-elect President Bush in 2004 while more than 20% of those same people have now grown to be included in the nearly 70% who disapprove of his job performance as of late. Fickle, anyone?

-I think the "average" American couldn't care less about global climate shifts as long as it will only threaten their offspring and not their current generation.

-I think the "average" American complains incessantly about a rise in milk prices to help our struggling dairy farmers to make ends meat while they stand and pump premium gas into their Lexus SUVs and Suburbans at $3.50/gallon.

-I think the "average" American hasn't read a novel in at least a year, if not longer.

-I think the "average" American couldn't tell you who Nancy Pelosi was, but they could most certainly tell you who Clay Aiken is.

-I think the "average" American has forgotten that turn signals come standard on every vehicle made nowadays, and they are there for more than just "decoration."

-I think the "average" American doesn't realize the hurtful, heart-wrenching impact using slurs such as "retard", "***", etc. can have upon those who truly are mentally or physically-challenged and/or homosexual.

-I think the "average" American is secretly thinking "I'll run out and buy an Audi A8 tomorrow to upstage the Jones's Audi A6" when hiding those sinful true feelings of envy and congratulating their next-door neighbor's purchase of a brand new vehicle that they saved for for a number of years.

-I think the "average" American is lying when they claim that physical appearance doesn't weigh heavily in their decision to pursue a romantic relationship with someone.

-I think the "average" American loves to find some political agenda to latch onto in order to hope that the focus of others will be shifted away from their own shortcomings, which are protested by others at the same time. For example, why not protest gay marriage in order to shift attention away from invading foreign nations without having credible intelligence sources beforehand? Why not protest abortion in order to shift attention away from one's recent drunk-driving arrest?

-I think the "average" American is an armchair quarterback who believes he/she can do much, much better than the politicians who are currently in office but will never get off their derrieres to consider actually running for that same post themselves in the next election.

-I think the "average" American has some sort of erotic fantasy that they have always wanted to live out but are too ashamed to broach with their sexual partners to ever make it a reality.

...shall I continue?
Scranton, you sound like me when I was in my early 20s. Now that I'm older and wiser, I think much of this is still accurate, but there are a lot more good people among us than I realized when I was that age.

(Um, who is Clay Aiken?)
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Old 07-02-2007, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Bay View, Milwaukee
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Actually, I wasn't too far off. According to the census (http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/income_wealth/002484.html - broken link)
"Real median household income remained unchanged between 2002 and 2003 in three of the four census regions — Northeast ($46,742), Midwest ($44,732) and West ($46,820). The exception was the South, where income declined 1.5 percent. The South continued to have the lowest median household income of all four regions ($39,823). The difference between median household incomes in the Northeast and West was not statistically significant."
These figures are for median household income, though; not single or per capita income as earlier conjectured. I recently read (NY Times, based on census data) that the average single income in the U.S. was around $36,000 in 2006.

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And according to the good folks at Wiki, approximately 60% of US adults have some college under their belt, but no degree.
This probably includes all post-secondary education, including tech training and non-degree experience. Relatively few still attend a traditional four-year school, and fewer complete a "four-year" university/college program.

A while back, I read an illuminating article that discussed what "average Americans" are likely to know about. Perhaps Clay Aiken was among the people, but other things included Branson (Missouri) and Nascar.
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