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Old 09-28-2010, 10:35 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland area
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Let's face it. America is facing unprecedented times, and not in a good way.

1. We're drowned in debt. Our external debt is 94% of our GDP. While that's not as bad as other places like the United Kingdom & France, we still have the largest dollar amount of external debt in the world (for those of you who don't know, external debt is debt held by foreigners). China holds a large percentage of this. If they were to let the yuan appreciate, they could literally buy America!

2. Our economy is stagnant. The rich are getting richer, and the poor are getting poorer. The middle class, which essentially made America prosperous, is quickly declining. CEO's are raking in the cash while middle and lower income Americans are losing their jobs and running to welfare & signing up for jobless benefits.

3. Manufacturing has all but disappeared from the average American. We used to be what China is today (the world's factory). Now, we produce little to nothing. Sure, we may be the world's largest exporter, but we are bound to fall second to China. Furthermore, what we do export is nothing that creates decent-paying jobs for the majority of Americans. Our exports are highly technical, which takes highly skilled individuals. That's not feasible for everyone.

3. We're the world's largest importer. We import much more than we export. How is this feasible? It's not. The signs are finally showing that we can't keep on this path of consuming everything in sight without producing anything in return.

4. Our central cities are in decline. Metro areas may be growing, but central cities in general are continuing the decline that started in the 1950s. There has been a little growth in most cities as of the 2000 Census, but many cities are far off of their population peaks. It would be a different story if suburbanites were connected to the city by rail, bus, etc. But for the vast majority of suburban towns, the car is the only means of transportation. Cars take oil, which America must import from other countries, most notably the middle east. We're essentially sending billions of dollars to our enemies to fuel a destructive lifestyle.

5. We're dependent on the world; the world really isn't dependent on us. If the world decided to stop selling products to us and lending us money to finance our debt, we would be screwed. We've invested most of our resources into a pointless war, and many companies are expanding operations elsewhere, while we're stuck with high unemployment and a declining economy.

Look at Detroit, which was once one of the wealthiest cities in the world during it's heyday. The entire metro area has been declining since the 1980s. If it can happen to Detroit, what's stopping it from happening to the rest of the country?

This isn't the America I want, and I hope it's not the America you want either. One thing that will never change about America is the optimism and fighting spirit. What can we as Americans do to keep America on top? What can we do to change the decline in our country? It starts with one person..

Fair Warning from the moderator: If the answer includes any references to: politics, immigration or religion or any swipes at a political party, it doesn't belong in this forum and will be deleted as off topic.

Last edited by Bo; 09-29-2010 at 08:45 AM.. Reason: Added bold sentence at end.
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Old 09-28-2010, 10:50 PM
 
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Stop thinking so much.

Who cares?

Welcome to the land of apathy.
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Old 09-29-2010, 11:33 AM
 
Location: St Paul, MN - NJ's Gold Coast
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The media is the main thing we should tone down. It's become the most misleading source on the planet- The American Media, that is.
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Old 09-29-2010, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Out of Sight Out of Mind
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Get Rid of Fox News which stirs poop with a stick to stink up the place.
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Old 09-29-2010, 07:07 PM
 
Location: roaming gnome
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House passes bill designed to combat undervalued currencies - Sep. 29, 2010
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Old 09-29-2010, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
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Get Rid of Fox News which stirs poop with a stick to stink up the place.
Ye. All they are doing is stirring up very irrational fears. Same kind of crap that lead to an unnecessary and costly war in Iraq.
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Old 09-30-2010, 05:12 PM
 
Location: northern Vermont - previously NM, WA, & MA
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First big step would be to stop longing and pining for the good old days, they are never coming back. Progressive ideas are dismissed as cost prohibitve. Indeed apathy prevails.
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Old 09-30-2010, 05:15 PM
 
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The media is the main thing we should tone down. It's become the most misleading source on the planet- The American Media, that is.
There's this little thing called the 1st amendment.
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Old 09-30-2010, 05:17 PM
 
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Let's face it. America is facing unprecedented times, and not in a good way.

1. We're drowned in debt. Our external debt is 94% of our GDP. While that's not as bad as other places like the United Kingdom & France, we still have the largest dollar amount of external debt in the world (for those of you who don't know, external debt is debt held by foreigners). China holds a large percentage of this. If they were to let the yuan appreciate, they could literally buy America!

2. Our economy is stagnant. The rich are getting richer, and the poor are getting poorer. The middle class, which essentially made America prosperous, is quickly declining. CEO's are raking in the cash while middle and lower income Americans are losing their jobs and running to welfare & signing up for jobless benefits.

3. Manufacturing has all but disappeared from the average American. We used to be what China is today (the world's factory). Now, we produce little to nothing. Sure, we may be the world's largest exporter, but we are bound to fall second to China. Furthermore, what we do export is nothing that creates decent-paying jobs for the majority of Americans. Our exports are highly technical, which takes highly skilled individuals. That's not feasible for everyone.

3. We're the world's largest importer. We import much more than we export. How is this feasible? It's not. The signs are finally showing that we can't keep on this path of consuming everything in sight without producing anything in return.

4. Our central cities are in decline. Metro areas may be growing, but central cities in general are continuing the decline that started in the 1950s. There has been a little growth in most cities as of the 2000 Census, but many cities are far off of their population peaks. It would be a different story if suburbanites were connected to the city by rail, bus, etc. But for the vast majority of suburban towns, the car is the only means of transportation. Cars take oil, which America must import from other countries, most notably the middle east. We're essentially sending billions of dollars to our enemies to fuel a destructive lifestyle.

5. We're dependent on the world; the world really isn't dependent on us. If the world decided to stop selling products to us and lending us money to finance our debt, we would be screwed. We've invested most of our resources into a pointless war, and many companies are expanding operations elsewhere, while we're stuck with high unemployment and a declining economy.

Look at Detroit, which was once one of the wealthiest cities in the world during it's heyday. The entire metro area has been declining since the 1980s. If it can happen to Detroit, what's stopping it from happening to the rest of the country?

This isn't the America I want, and I hope it's not the America you want either. One thing that will never change about America is the optimism and fighting spirit. What can we as Americans do to keep America on top? What can we do to change the decline in our country? It starts with one person..

Fair Warning from the moderator: If the answer includes any references to: politics, immigration or religion or any swipes at a political party, it doesn't belong in this forum and will be deleted as off topic.


How can you start a thread like this without talking politics?
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Old 09-30-2010, 05:20 PM
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How can you start a thread like this without talking politics?
Find a way to do it. Politics are off topic in this forum. The original poster picked the forum, not the moderators.
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