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Old 09-30-2010, 02:12 PM
 
Location: The City
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I don't get why so many people are anti-highway, I love trains I ride the train here ever day in Charlotte, but would never dismiss the importance of interstates and the need for them in outlying area, especially place where very, very expensive rail would have low ridership and the cost would not benefit anyone but 50 people when a Highway could benefit thousands for the same cost.

I honestly am not truly anti-Highway

Federal funds should only be used for Inter city/state Highways. Intra city/metro Beltways/Connections should be paid for by the area that benefits not federal funds. That is really my point
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Old 09-30-2010, 02:13 PM
 
Location: northern Vermont - previously NM, WA, & MA
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they won't listen. They know all, and we know nothing
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anyway, I should not even be responding because you have not addressed my other issues, why would you address this one.
then why are you still here talking smack? You arn't listening either.
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Old 09-30-2010, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Up on the moon laughing down on you
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then why are you still here talking smack? You arn't listening either.
I'm not? so how did I respond?
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Old 09-30-2010, 02:16 PM
 
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I honestly am not truly anti-Highway

Federal funds should only be used for Inter city/state Highways. Intra city/metro Beltways/Connections should be paid for by the area that benefits not federal funds. That is really my point
yeah you are anti other people getting highways. pure jealousy
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Old 09-30-2010, 02:18 PM
 
Location: northern Vermont - previously NM, WA, & MA
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I'm not? so how did I respond?
build a 4th, 5th, 6th beltway. Bring on the Wal Marts, Taco bells, and cookie cutter housing. Bring on the expense of widening existing intersecting roads with the new highway, adding traffic signals, street lights and water/sewer lines. Put the burden on everywhere else. Meanwhile stay content with the little at grade trolley that could chugging around Houston like a novelty instead of a real heavy rail system like MARTA in Atlanta. That's why you are under the impression the ridership would be low. Forget getting more creative and ambitious about developing the infrastructure within the 3 beltways. Yeah, there's a recipe for a world class city.

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Old 09-30-2010, 02:21 PM
 
Location: northern Vermont - previously NM, WA, & MA
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yeah you are anti other people getting highways. pure jealousy
No, we care about our existing highways not crumbling and getting upgraded along with the new rail corridors that cities like Houston would benefit from instead of supporting new sprawl or adding more sprawl to the exurbs.
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Old 09-30-2010, 02:22 PM
 
Location: The City
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yeah you are anti other people getting highways. pure jealousy

No just in my opinion a poor use of Federal Funds

To Houston or any other area build as many Highways/Beltways as you want, just do it on your own dime

Connections between cities and states are another story for Federal funds

This isnt a Houston thing it was just one example, many other cities are doing the same thing and i equally disagree on the use of these funds
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Old 09-30-2010, 02:44 PM
 
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Paul you posted rail lines going through NJ you didn't post a rail line around NJ

HTown agin these go all through NJ and connect many towns/business centers and larger cities. the point. More cohesive development and less reliance in beltways and such. More people still use cars but NJT is a good example of good alternatives and it is expanding.

And HTown build all the highways you want to connect town x to town y in the metro, I just dont think federal funds should be used. My point and until metros as large as Houston invest in better alternatives and better cohesion and planning that is not almost exclusively reliant on highways and cars I say no more federal funds at all, but htis is just my opinion
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Old 09-30-2010, 02:55 PM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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Rail built through Dense areas and connecting large towns and cities will have high ridership. Like The Morristown , NJT Northeast Corridor , New Haven and Providence lines all used by 45,000+ daily which is European averages. All the Northeastern / Mid Atlantic states have agreed to restore and expand our Rail network to 1960s levels about 4-6,000 miles. Since it won't cost that much compared to building new highways its being pursued. Also some highways will be upgraded to Smart Highways.
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Old 09-30-2010, 06:40 PM
 
Location: Cleveland bound with MPLS in the rear-view
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one question for you. don't give me any long nonsense either. Just a simple question and a simple answer. If The city limits are not getting bigger, but the developments are increasing, what other than infill would you call that?
Oh sorry, when you said "Houston" I assumed metro Houston, not city limits.....that's a miscommunication on my part. I live in a city (Minneapolis) that has such small boundaries that 3 million of the 3.5 million people live in neighboring suburban areas, so I'm just used to people calling a city by its entire metro area. My bad!
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