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10-15-2010, 12:14 PM
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Location: East of the Sun, West of the Moon
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They also speak English and like fiddle music, enjoy a good drink and whole host of other things.
A modern Ulster Scot and a Scots-Irish American probably have a lot more in common today than either of them have with their common ancestor in 1740.
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10-15-2010, 02:29 PM
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Location: Northern Ireland
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Originally Posted by ABQConvict
A modern Ulster Scot and a Scots-Irish American probably have a lot more in common today than either of them have with their common ancestor in 1740.
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Aye, we both have the internet.  |
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10-15-2010, 10:01 PM
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Location: Earth
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ABQConvict
They also speak English and like fiddle music, enjoy a good drink and whole host of other things.
A modern Ulster Scot and a Scots-Irish American probably have a lot more in common today than either of them have with their common ancestor in 1740.
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They probably have different preferences when it comes to sports and Scots-Irish Americans generally don't identify with political conflicts in Northern Ireland. As mentioned, the Orange Order is (fortunately) small in the US and July 12 is just another day.
But obviously they have more in common than with their ancestors in the 18th century.... |
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10-19-2010, 08:25 AM
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Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ABQConvict
They also speak English and like fiddle music, enjoy a good drink and whole host of other things.
A modern Ulster Scot and a Scots-Irish American probably have a lot more in common today than either of them have with their common ancestor in 1740.
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Another way to look at it is maybe the Scots who left for America in the 1700s were the "real Scots" and the people who stayed were less nationalistic. I theorize that the descendants of those who died fighting the English largely left while those Walter Scott type apologist who benefit from Norman rule stayed.
Through history Scotland had a bad reputation for rebellion against "federal" government. England would send 3 men to Scotland to collect taxes, they would come back with zero taxes and 3 heads in a bag! That doesn't sound like Scotland today, but it sounds a heck of a lot like majority Scottish ancestry places in the US (like Eastern Kentucky)
A lot of Scottish American Southerners think they are voting against Obama and Pelosi, but they are actually still voting against Queen Anne and King Edward - they just don't know it. The distrust of Edinburgh and London has been passed down from father to son for 500 years and is now a distrust of Washington.
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10-25-2010, 10:57 AM
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Location: Northern Ireland
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Originally Posted by censusdata
were the "real Scots"
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Are those the real Scots who are Descended from the Vikings or those who are Descended from Saxons???
Or are you referring to the Highland Scots??? because if you are referring to the Lowlanders? then, my friend, the real Scots would be Nil. |
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05-09-2011, 12:13 PM
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I forgot this topic
What I find surprising is that Canadians are more aware of their Scottish heritage. 15,11 % of Canadian are of Scottish descent for a number of 4,719,850. While 1,9 % of American are of Scottish descent for a number of 5,901,932 and 1,7 % of American of Scots-Irish for a number of 5,310,756 .
I'm sure that Scottish/Scots-Irish Americans are at least 10 times more numerous than the number indicated but some people don't know that and they don't really care.
For me it's a problem of mass immigration, there are so many different origins that we no longer know where we come from.
In your opinion why Scottish culture is more present in Canada than the USA ?
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05-10-2011, 11:37 AM
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Location: Gatineau, Québec
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I forgot this topic
What I find surprising is that Canadians are more aware of their Scottish heritage. 15,11 % of Canadian are of Scottish descent for a number of 4,719,850. While 1,9 % of American are of Scottish descent for a number of 5,901,932 and 1,7 % of American of Scots-Irish for a number of 5,310,756 .
I'm sure that Scottish/Scots-Irish Americans are at least 10 times more numerous than the number indicated but some people don't know that and they don't really care.
For me it's a problem of mass immigration, there are so many different origins that we no longer know where we come from.
In your opinion why Scottish culture is more present in Canada than the USA ?
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Scots made up a larger proportion of the British settler population in Canada than they did in the U.S. |
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05-10-2011, 01:08 PM
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Location: Honolulu, HI
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I can trace my ancestry on my fathers side back to Scotland but my family has been here since the early 1700's. Its hard for me to identify as Scottish American when my family has been here for 300 years.
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05-10-2011, 02:16 PM
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Location: Phoenix
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I am 70% Scots irish and I agree with some others theres probably a lot more scottish americans than what the census shows.
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07-22-2013, 04:16 PM
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Scotland is it's own country
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Originally Posted by Chicagoland60426
Scottish are British. Scotland is in Great Britain.
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Saying Scottish are British is like saying Canadians are Americans. they may share the same island, but they are two different countries. |
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