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Old 07-10-2007, 01:39 AM
 
Location: Fairfax
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Because they are no longer 1st rate. Maybe last century...
A combination of better economies, better climate, and the trendiness factor will have people leaving the midwest for a long time. I, for one do not feel bad for you. The second half of last century was glory years for the midwest and the south got shafted in national recognition-It is our turn in the sun.

I'm talking about the metaphorical sun since we are always in the sun...
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Old 07-10-2007, 04:45 AM
 
Location: Raleigh,NC
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i swear everytime i see you post you brag about raleigh or Charlotte
those cities aernt that great with hardly any history involved with them
Actually Charlotte Visit Charlotte :: Home and Raleigh Raleigh Ranks Right On Top (http://www.visitraleigh.com/media/accolades.html - broken link) are two of the best up and coming cities that this nation has to offer. They're also two of the oldest bigger cities in the country. FYI: Raleigh(1792) and Charlotte(1768) are both older than Dayton(1796).

We both cherish and preserve our historic neighborhoods and are very proud of them.

Raleigh Historic Neighborhoods:

Historic Neighborhoods of Raleigh

Five Points Neighborhoods MPS-- Raleigh: A Capital City: A National Register of Historic Places Travel Itinerary

Raleigh Area Neighborhoods - Historic Hoods - Paul Setliff

Charlotte Historic Neighborhoods:

Historic Districts (http://www.charmeck.org/Departments/Planning/Historic+Districts/Home.htm - broken link)

Myers Park Homeowners Association

Charlotte Observer | 09/13/2006 | Get to know the historic neighborhoods
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Old 07-10-2007, 09:29 AM
 
Location: dayton
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Actually Charlotte Visit Charlotte :: Home and Raleigh Raleigh Ranks Right On Top (http://www.visitraleigh.com/media/accolades.html - broken link) are two of the best up and coming cities that this nation has to offer. They're also two of the oldest bigger cities in the country. FYI: Raleigh(1792) and Charlotte(1768) are both older than Dayton(1796).

We both cherish and preserve our historic neighborhoods and are very proud of them.

Raleigh Historic Neighborhoods:

Historic Neighborhoods of Raleigh

Five Points Neighborhoods MPS-- Raleigh: A Capital City: A National Register of Historic Places Travel Itinerary

Raleigh Area Neighborhoods - Historic Hoods - Paul Setliff

Charlotte Historic Neighborhoods:

Historic Districts (http://www.charmeck.org/Departments/Planning/Historic+Districts/Home.htm - broken link)

Myers Park Homeowners Association

Charlotte Observer | 09/13/2006 | Get to know the historic neighborhoods
thats true
but for a city being older then one another doesn't really mean much since dayton is more out west. Just a question what things have came out of those cities like for an example dayton was the homplace of aviation, cash register,etc. Also dayton was where the treaty was signed to bring an end to war in Bosnia
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Old 07-10-2007, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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A combination of better economies, better climate, and the trendiness factor will have people leaving the midwest for a long time.
And a plentiful water supply will bring them back, eventually.
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Old 07-10-2007, 10:45 AM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Most everyone in Pittsburgh thought "Big Steel" would come back, too. It's been 25 years and it hasn't happened yet.

Last edited by Katarina Witt; 07-10-2007 at 10:51 AM.. Reason: clarification
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Old 07-10-2007, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Fairfax
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And a plentiful water supply will bring them back, eventually.
??
I wasnt aware the South had a shortage of water.
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Old 07-10-2007, 02:59 PM
 
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I have relatives in the Pittsburgh region and they are retired. However, my cousin had to leave Pittsburgh because the job situation wasn't that great. Like many, she headed to North Carolina. In fact, she said over half of her friends are either in North Carolina, Florida, or in nearby Columbus, OH. It is true that Pittsburgh has many excellent universities and fine museums, but the jobs just aren't there. Also it doesn't help matters when the state of PA shuts down.
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Old 07-10-2007, 03:15 PM
 
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First rate cities? NY, Chicago, Boston, San Francisco, and MAYBE Seattle. There are a lot of good places to live in this country. But not many "first rate" cities.
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Old 07-10-2007, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Lincoln, Nebraska (moving to Ohio)
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I thought Pittsburgh had a better employment/job market then Columbus, Ohio?

I am sure if there was a break-down between what Pittsburgh employment base is and Columbus base is one has around 2.4 million people I think (Pitts) and 1.9 million (Columbus) it would indicate Pittsburgh far ahead.

Pittsburgh seems to have more of an economic base then Columbus?

Columbus doesnt really have a good economy either, Cincinnati probubly has the best economy in the state of Ohio.
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Old 07-10-2007, 04:33 PM
 
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First rate cities? NY, Chicago, Boston, San Francisco, and MAYBE Seattle. There are a lot of good places to live in this country. But not many "first rate" cities.
These are only first rate cities if you make more than $200,000 a year. Almost everybody else (with the exception of carefree young people and students) is looking to bail out.
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