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Old 02-16-2009, 08:11 AM
 
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I created the poll vs Phoenix because there was another blind soul who's claiming the same thing that you are. And for your info, I travel more per yer than you probably do in 10. Ive been to LA several times, never once did I see what the big deal is. And whats pathetic is how you can call LA better than Chicago. Should I create another poll?
I've been to both... LA is awesome... it's fun and there is tons to do. The people are great....

it's downside is it's like one giant suburb and not easy to get around in..

Chicago is also awesome..... and an amazing looking city easy to get around in. people are pretty nice, but people in LA are nicer.

i'd choose chicago over LA cuz its an amazing city at a way better cost... plus chicago downtown > then anything IMO. but both have tons to do, no one would ever go bored in either city.

 
Old 02-16-2009, 03:33 PM
 
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I'd have to say Tucson, Oklahoma City, or Jacksonville. All are so boring (at least you have beaches in Jacksonville), little to no culture, sprawl, etc.
 
Old 02-16-2009, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Teaneck, NJ
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Detroit.

I actually love the city in general... but with the horrific crime, it's just not a good place to live other then its burbs.
 
Old 05-15-2009, 01:59 PM
 
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The midwest has no mountains,8 months of cold weather and just out right sucks! The west coast is where to be dont compare a artic midwest city to the beauty on the pacific please. L.A. and San Diego no other cities like them hands down!
 
Old 05-15-2009, 02:11 PM
 
Location: STL
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What is the worst big city in america?

I have to say Indianapolis. Im sorry but its awful in my opinion and it could be so much better. Its the 12th largest city in america, not Wichita.

Actually, Indianapolis skyline from the interstate is rather decent but thats about the best part of Indy is going through on Interstate 70.

I dont know what it is but the combination of horrible architecture covering a majority of the city, abandoned lots it seems rural in alot of areas, very high violent crime rates, horrible public transit.

The downtown is clean, but it was not vibrant at all. The neighborhoods I saw adjacent to downtown were fairly run-down, unimpressive with small shacky wooden homes. They had a few brick-apartment buildings on one side of downtown but overall it didnt seem to increase the lack of urbanity in Indianapolis.

Overall, a very unimpressive large city. Its not unique and a violent crime cesspool. Its just too bad Indianapolis never went the direction of Louisville an hour and a half down the road.

Cincinnati the other city in the triangle has other major urban problems on the same level as Indianapolis but its a much more unique city, with first-class urbanity, neighborhoods and economically better.
I just want to say that I disagree with some of your comments. First off, Indianapolis' city population might rank 12th in the US, but the metro population ranks 42nd. Also, very high violent crime???
 
Old 05-15-2009, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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I just want to say that I disagree with some of your comments. First off, Indianapolis' city population might rank 12th in the US, but the metro population ranks 42nd. Also, very high violent crime???
No need to bother talking to this dude. He's been banned for almost two years now.
 
Old 05-15-2009, 03:37 PM
 
Location: STL
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No need to bother talking to this dude. He's been banned for almost two years now.
Ohh, LOL.
 
Old 05-15-2009, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Columbus,Ohio
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A tie between Phoenix and Detriot. In the former its full of dull unattractive sprawl and is car oriented with too much constant sunshine and dry weather ( I like alot of variety in climate) and in the latter - I don't need to go there ,you know the routine.
 
Old 05-21-2009, 05:08 PM
 
Location: WA
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Phoenix's crime is pretty bad but it is mainly contained to South Phoenix and the suburbs west of Phoenix. The east valley, especially Mesa, is pretty quiet. Mesa is actually way too quiet for having a population of 450,000.
 
Old 05-21-2009, 08:06 PM
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Location: Oakland
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well if you want to go by violent crime rates per 100,000 residents for all cities over 500k, here are the 2007 numbers:

Total Violent Crime Rate:

Detroit (860,971) - 2,289
Memphis (669,264) - 1,951
Baltimore (624,237) - 1,631
Nashville (564,169) - 1,509
Philadelphia (1,435,533) - 1,475
Milwaukee (572,938) - 1,403
Washington (588,292) - 1,347
Indianapolis (797,268) - 1,234
Boston (591,855) - 1,155
Houston (2,169,544) - 1,132
Dallas (1,239,104) - 1,069
Jacksonville (797,350) - 1,022
Las Vegas Metro (1,341,156) - 1,017
Albuquerque (513,124) - 990
Charlotte-Mecklenburg (733,291) - 986
San Francisco (733,799) - 874
Columbus (735,981) - 852
Oklahoma City (542,199) - 851
Tucson (523,299) - 784
Phoenix (1,541,698) - 724
Los Angeles (3,870,487) - 718
Portland (538,133) - 688
Louisville Metro (624,030) - 679
Fort Worth (670,693) - 667
Seattle (585,118) - 627
Denver (573,387) - 619
New York (8,220,196) - 614
San Antonio (1,316,882) - 556
Austin (716,817) - 540
San Diego (1,261,196) - 502
El Paso (616,029) - 418
San Jose (934,553) - 402
Honolulu (905,903) - 288
Chicago (2,824,434) - N/A

Murder rate:

Detroit - 46
Baltimore - 45
Washington - 31
Philadelphia - 27
Memphis - 19
Milwaukee - 18
Houston - 16
Dallas - 16
Chicago - 16
Jacksonville - 15
Indianapolis - 14
San Francisco - 14
Columbus - 14
Phoenix - 14
Las Vegas Metro - 14
Nashville - 13
Oklahoma City - 11
Louisville Metro - 11
Boston - 11
Los Angeles - 10
Charlotte-Mecklenburg - 10
Albuquerque - 9
Tucson - 9
San Antonio - 9
Fort Worth - 9
Denver - 8
New York - 6
San Diego - 5
Austin - 4
Portland - 4
San Jose - 4
Seattle - 4
El Paso - 3
Honolulu - 2

Robbery rate:

Detroit - 764
Memphis - 728
Philadelphia - 715
Washington - 677
Baltimore - 624
Milwaukee - 616
Dallas - 583
Chicago - 546
Houston - 529
Columbus - 523
San Francisco - 514
Indianapolis - 507
Nashville - 446
Charlotte-Mecklenburg - 435
Las Vegas Metro - 392
Jacksonville - 391
Boston - 379
Los Angeles - 348
Phoenix - 321
Louisville Metro - 306
Albuquerque - 280
Tucson - 274
New York - 265
Seattle - 260
Oklahoma City - 258
Fort Worth - 242
Portland - 240
Austin - 203
San Antonio - 186
Denver - 182
San Diego - 166
San Jose - 114
Honolulu - 104
El Paso - 77

Stats are from the FBI, via wikipedia: United States cities by crime rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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