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Old 10-28-2010, 12:36 PM
 
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I agree with Marmac.Being stationed at Fort Leanardwood MO, it sure didn't look or feel midwestern. Sure wasn't any midwestern, prime farmland, lost when that base was constructed.
I have relatives in West Plains and Thayer MO. Nothing midwestern in those southern MO places.
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Old 10-28-2010, 12:41 PM
 
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I agree with Marmac.Being stationed at Fort Leanardwood MO, it sure didn't look or feel midwestern. Sure wasn't any midwestern, prime farmland, lost when that base was constructed.
I have relatives in West Plains and Thayer MO. Nothing midwestern in those southern MO places.
Lost-in-the-woods is the Ozarks.
No one is arguing about villages on the Mo/Ark state line, either.
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Old 10-28-2010, 12:58 PM
 
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Lost-in-the-woods is the Ozarks.
No one is arguing about villages on the Mo/Ark state line, either.
and the Ozarks make up a large percentage of land area of southern MO.
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Old 10-28-2010, 01:07 PM
 
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I think this my fave link of all time because of the answer to the question.
Answers.com - Why is missouri in the midwest region
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Old 10-28-2010, 01:13 PM
 
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Some interesting info here...

Midwestern United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 10-28-2010, 01:18 PM
 
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"All of the lower Midwestern states, including Missouri, have a major Southern component, but only Missouri was a slave state before the Civil War."

It sho do, ma'm!
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Old 10-28-2010, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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"Jeez, look at a MAP, stupid!"!!!!


Well, that is quite an intellectual rebuttal you posted, there.

I bet that was also the main thrust of evidence in your doctoral dissertation on why members of the genus ursidae deficate in sylvan ecosystems.

Nice grin on the avatar, though...............

Now, does anyone have any serious info, or can we get back to irrigation, and the joys thereof.
Methinks your sense of humor has deserted you, that was funny, and you know it.
Its called comic relief.
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Old 10-28-2010, 01:21 PM
 
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Religion and Public Life in the Southern Crossroads


"In the Religion by Region Project, the states of Missouri, Arkansas, Louisiana, Oklahoma, and Texas comprise the Southern Crossroads. These "showdown" states share a history of sharp religious and cultural clashes across intersecting geographical boundary lines, including those demarcating French and Spanish territories from the Anglo-American colonies, and Indian Territory from the rest of the nation. The Southern Crossroads is also famously the region of the United States in which the culture of the Southeast meets that of the West. The majority of pioneer settlers of the Southern Crossroads states were drawn from the slave states of the Old South. The Southern culture that they imported into the Crossroads states, however, underwent important adaptations as it interacted in the early 19th century with French, Hispanic, and native American cultures on the westernmost frontier of the cotton kingdom.'

And because of that 'Major Southern Component', it is also very logical to ascibe Missouri (et al) into its own unique region:

'The Southern Crossroads'.

Or The Upland South.

Or The Lower North.
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Old 10-28-2010, 01:30 PM
 
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"All of the lower Midwestern states, including Missouri, have a major Southern component, but only Missouri was a slave state before the Civil War."

It sho do, ma'm!
You're cherry picking again, just as you did on the other thread.

Differences in the definition of the Midwest mainly split between the Heartland and the Great Plains on one side, and the Great Lakes and the Rust Belt on the other. While some point to the small towns and agricultural communities in Kansas, Iowa, the Dakotas, and Nebraska of the Great Plains as representative of traditional Midwestern lifestyles and values, others assert that the declining Rust Belt cities of the Great Lakes – with their histories of 19th- and early-20th-century immigration, manufacturing base, and strong Catholic influence – are more representative of the Midwestern experience.
Certain areas of the traditionally defined Midwest are often cited as not being representative of the region, while other areas traditionally outside of the Midwest are often claimed to be part of the Midwest. These claims often embody historical, cultural, economic or demographic arguments for inclusion or exclusion. Perceptions of the proper classification of the Midwest also vary within the region, and tend toward exclusion rather than inclusion.
Two other regions, Appalachia and the Ozark Mountains, overlap geographically with the Midwest – Appalachia in Southern Ohio and the Ozarks in Southern Missouri. The Ohio River has long been the boundary between North and South and between the Midwest and the Upper South. All of the lower Midwestern states, including Missouri, have a major Southern component, but only Missouri was a slave state before the Civil War.
Note the bolded portion of the complete citation.....last time I checked, the confluence of the Ohio was -gasp- at the very beginning of the Bootheel.
Look at a map!
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Old 10-28-2010, 01:34 PM
 
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You're cherry picking again, just as you did on the other thread.

Differences in the definition of the Midwest mainly split between the Heartland and the Great Plains on one side, and the Great Lakes and the Rust Belt on the other. While some point to the small towns and agricultural communities in Kansas, Iowa, the Dakotas, and Nebraska of the Great Plains as representative of traditional Midwestern lifestyles and values, others assert that the declining Rust Belt cities of the Great Lakes – with their histories of 19th- and early-20th-century immigration, manufacturing base, and strong Catholic influence – are more representative of the Midwestern experience.
Certain areas of the traditionally defined Midwest are often cited as not being representative of the region, while other areas traditionally outside of the Midwest are often claimed to be part of the Midwest. These claims often embody historical, cultural, economic or demographic arguments for inclusion or exclusion. Perceptions of the proper classification of the Midwest also vary within the region, and tend toward exclusion rather than inclusion.
Two other regions, Appalachia and the Ozark Mountains, overlap geographically with the Midwest – Appalachia in Southern Ohio and the Ozarks in Southern Missouri. The Ohio River has long been the boundary between North and South and between the Midwest and the Upper South. All of the lower Midwestern states, including Missouri, have a major Southern component, but only Missouri was a slave state before the Civil War.
Note the bolded portion of the complete citation.....last time I checked, the confluence of the Ohio was -gasp- at the very beginning of the Bootheel.
Look at a map!
ohio river major rivers of the united states map

Um, the Ohio ends before it can divide Missouri from anything on a 'North-South' basis.

And it does not end cultural influences, as even basic history tells you

And again (from Wiki):

" All of the lower Midwestern states, including Missouri, have a major Southern component, but only Missouri was a slave state before the Civil War."
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