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Old 10-28-2010, 06:06 PM
 
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i actually agree with geechie. missouri is a purely southern state. there are zero influences from any other region. it's 100% southern. all the maps that show otherwise are wrong. the us government and census bureau are really stupid. missouri has absolutely nothing in common with its neighboring states (except arkansas).
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Old 10-28-2010, 06:14 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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Okay, so you're saying that EVERYONE in that specific area of Missouri- which must by definition- include at least 51% of the total state population uses that (and other) German recipes on a regular basis.

And that somehow makes the area 'Non-Southern', as there are NO significant German communities in the South.

I gotta see the data which proves this.

Please post same.
Thats right, there are no significant German communities in the South.
Since Missouri isnt in the South, here is the population breakdown.

The five largest ancestry groups in Missouri are: German (23.5 percent), Irish (12.7 percent), American (10.5 percent), English (9.5 percent) and French (3.5 percent). "American" includes some of those reported as Native American or African American, but also European Americans whose ancestors have lived in the United States for a considerable time.
German Americans are an ancestry group present throughout Missouri. African Americans are a substantial part of the population in St. Louis, Kansas City, and in the southeastern Bootheel and some parts of the Missouri River Valley, where plantation agriculture was once important. Missouri Creoles of French ancestry are concentrated in the Mississippi River Valley south of St. Louis (see Missouri French). Approximately 40,000–50,000 recent Bosniak immigrants live mostly in the St. Louis area.[citation needed] Kansas City is home to large and growing immigrant communities from Mexico, Sudan, Somalia, and Southeast Asia.
The Mississippi Hills region and the Little Rhine region have the highest concentration of German-Americans in the state.
Their influence on the culture of the state is everywhere.
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Old 10-28-2010, 06:15 PM
 
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i actually agree with geechie. missouri is a purely southern state. there are zero influences from any other region. it's 100% southern. all the maps that show otherwise are wrong. the us government and census bureau are really stupid. missouri has absolutely nothing in common with its neighboring states (except arkansas).
Now you're going into ya-ya land.

I've always said that, based on the preponderence of evidence, Missouri is a transition state, with elements of both Midwest and South.

IF you want to correctly decribe my thoughts on thia all-consuming subject. (I gotta see if the papers in Sydney, Londoa. and Buenos Aires have latched onto it.) I would say that Missouri in a group od states that are their own little region.

And you can call that region...........hell, how about 'Tony'??
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Old 10-28-2010, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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i actually agree with geechie. missouri is a purely southern state. there are zero influences from any other region. it's 100% southern. all the maps that show otherwise are wrong. the us government and census bureau are really stupid. missouri has absolutely nothing in common with its neighboring states (except arkansas).
No Germans there, either.
Nope, not a one.
Hmmmmmm.....then where did my name come from?
Gotta remember to ask my mama........
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Old 10-28-2010, 06:17 PM
 
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Now you're going into ya-ya land.

I've always said that, based on the preponderence of evidence, Missouri is a transition state, with elements of both Midwest and South.

IF you want to correctly decribe my thoughts on thia all-consuming subject. (I gotta see if the papers in Sydney, Londoa. and Buenos Aires have latched onto it.) I would say that Missouri in a group od states that are their own little region.

And you can call that region...........hell, how about 'Tony'??
Alphonseland gets my vote.
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Old 10-28-2010, 06:18 PM
 
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Thats right, there are no significant German communities in the South.
Since Missouri isnt in the South, here is the population breakdown.

The five largest ancestry groups in Missouri are: German (23.5 percent), Irish (12.7 percent), American (10.5 percent), English (9.5 percent) and French (3.5 percent). "American" includes some of those reported as Native American or African American, but also European Americans whose ancestors have lived in the United States for a considerable time.
German Americans are an ancestry group present throughout Missouri. African Americans are a substantial part of the population in St. Louis, Kansas City, and in the southeastern Bootheel and some parts of the Missouri River Valley, where plantation agriculture was once important. Missouri Creoles of French ancestry are concentrated in the Mississippi River Valley south of St. Louis (see Missouri French). Approximately 40,000–50,000 recent Bosniak immigrants live mostly in the St. Louis area.[citation needed] Kansas City is home to large and growing immigrant communities from Mexico, Sudan, Somalia, and Southeast Asia.
The Mississippi Hills region and the Little Rhine region have the highest concentration of German-Americans in the state.
Their influence on the culture of the state is everywhere.
Texas German - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


http://www.palmettoroots.org/Auswanderer.html (broken link)
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Old 10-28-2010, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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Where do you think those Texans got the recipe for chicken fried steak?

German Food Guide - Schnitzel
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Old 10-28-2010, 06:23 PM
 
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Where do you think those Texans got the recipe for chicken fried steak?

German Food Guide - Schnitzel
Your source says Vienna.
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Old 10-28-2010, 06:28 PM
 
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"Union Captain Nathaniel Lyon hastily raised a militia, gained control of the arsenal (which was under the command of Peter V. Hagner), and started sending all but 10,000 rifles and muskets to Illinois. Lyon's militia had been recruited from German immigrants and members of the Wide Awakes political organization. The Germans in particular were unpopular with many native-born Missourians with Southern backgrounds, who deeply resented their anti-slavery views."

Fun fact to know and tell............................
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Old 10-28-2010, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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Your source says Vienna.
Try the Byzantine Empire, if you are going to split hairs.
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