How is DC not southern? (neighborhoods, good schools, income)
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On a side note, as shown in the presidential elections, Frederick is a very even split of Democrats and Republicans. Not so republican as you are trying to say.
...and the gun keeps backfiring on you with your Frederick argument...
Yeah, its only Maryland Haters that argue against the Fact that Maryland/DC is in the South.........
Based on an imaginary line, which used to be the western border of the colonies, DC used to be in the middle of the sea and that western border. Therefore, i think it is midwestern. Anybody who denies it is a hater who can't accept that fact that DC and Maryland are midwestern..............
This argument has been done to death. DC is at the southern end of the northern colonies which stretched from New Hampshire to Maryland. The Potomac River was the boundary between the north and the south. That is the only reason why DC was located and built on that site. It was a compromise between the north and the south.
History still makes DC Southern. Just because DC is full of transplants shouldn't change its identity. If you dress a rabbit up like a turtle, it's still a rabbit. DC is a Southern city matter hard people want to say otherwise.
According to the same theory, Baltimore is "southern" as well.
The definition of "southern" in this case is meant either to define geography or mannerisms of residents. The geographical definition became outdated in 1865. The mannerism definition has a less specific date of becoming not relevant, but one could safely say 50 or more years ago. This is pretty much the weirdest thread ever. Look at a modern map, travel to DC if possible and get back to us...ok?
According to the same theory, Baltimore is "southern" as well.
The definition of "southern" in this case is meant either to define geography or mannerisms of residents. The geographical definition became outdated in 1865. The mannerism definition has a less specific date of becoming not relevant, but one could safely say 50 or more years ago. This is pretty much the weirdest thread ever. Look at a modern map, travel to DC if possible and get back to us...ok?
It's not just "mannerisms" of the residents (i.e. New Yorkers talk fast, walk fast, are rude, etc.). It's a number of different things. I have said in a number of threads, and I will say it again here, that the chief characteristics of northern cities are:
1. Major centers of heavy industrial activity. Shipping, meatpacking, steelmaking, food processing, etc. Most of these factories have disappeared in the Northeast, but this is something that all of the northeastern cities have in common. After all, agriculture is not nearly as important to southern states as it was 100 years ago, but it's still something they nonetheless all have in common. Washington, DC lacked this type of economic activity.
2. Heavy late 19th/early 20th Century European immigration. Boston, NYC and Philly were flooded by Italian, Irish, and Jewish immigrants from Eastern Europe. DC, on the other hand, had no heavy immigration from Italy, Ireland, and Eastern Europe.
3. Heavy African American migration after the First World War. Most blacks from the South traveled to Boston, New York, and Philadelphia because of the boom in industrial activity in those cities. Prior to World War I, the native black populations in those cities were not very large. DC, however, already had a very large black population due to its being a slave territory. Also, Annapolis and Baltimore were two of the largest slave ports after Charleston.
All of the above factors have resulted in large ethnic/Catholic blue collar populations in the northeast and a black population that is much further removed from its southern roots than what you find in Maryland and DC. This is why Ben Affleck could make a movie called "The Town" in Boston, but a similar movie made in the DC Metro area would be ridiculous.
I'm waiting for a movie like "The Town" to be made in the Washington area. Maybe they can film it in Arlington and call it "The Ton." It will show the world DC's tough, hard nose, blue-collar side.
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