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View Poll Results: The ten most sprawling U.S. cities
Atlanta 194 54.96%
Dallas 142 40.23%
Houston 178 50.42%
Oklahoma City 58 16.43%
Charlotte, NC 71 20.11%
Jacksonville, FL 75 21.25%
Tampa, FL 29 8.22%
Los Angeles 166 47.03%
San Diego 43 12.18%
San Jose, CA 47 13.31%
Sacramento, CA 32 9.07%
Indianapolis 35 9.92%
Columbus, OH 26 7.37%
Nashville, TN 35 9.92%
Memphis, TN 17 4.82%
Lexington, KY 8 2.27%
Phoenix 176 49.86%
Tucson 37 10.48%
Las Vegas 108 30.59%
other (please specify) 42 11.90%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 353. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-15-2012, 01:16 PM
 
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Los Angeles. Houston's "far-flung" suburbs are only 30 miles away. Los Angeles has suburbs 60, 70 miles away.
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Old 03-15-2012, 02:14 PM
 
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LA's CSA is the largest in land area.
Phoenix comes second,
Then either Denver of SLC can't remember which

but that is because the counties out west are much larger than that back east, so going by cimply which is largest isn't gonna help.

personally I would go by UA.

when you look at UA you would see that LA doesn't sprawl a lot.

NY has the biggest UA by far. It is 3400 sq miles, but the density is one of the highest.

Chicago has the next largest UA at 2100 sq miles but it too has a high density.

the next largest UA is ATlanta at 2000 sq miles, but its UA density is lower than the densities of the 45 largest metro regions so I think it would win the title for most sprawling.


The other contenders
LA- has the highest density of all urban areas
Phoenix- UA density on par with Chicagos
Houston- Has a UA density higher than Seattle and Phoenix
Dallas- See Houston.
Have you been able to locate 2010 stats on this? 2000 are here (List of United States urban areas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia). Houston and Dallas barely had higher UA densities than Seattle in 2000, but did not have higher UA densities than Phoenix.
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Old 03-15-2012, 02:27 PM
 
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Have you been able to locate 2010 stats on this? 2000 are here (List of United States urban areas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia).
Won't be out for another year.

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Houston and Dallas barely had higher UA densities than Seattle in 2000, but did not have higher UA densities than Phoenix.
Did not say that it was. Said, Houston and Dallas were higher than Seattle and Phoenix was on par with Chicago
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Old 03-15-2012, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Won't be out for another year.


Did not say that it was. Said, Houston and Dallas were higher than Seattle and Phoenix was on par with Chicago
Quote:
Originally Posted by HtownLove View Post
LA's CSA is the largest in land area.
Phoenix comes second,
Then either Denver of SLC can't remember which

but that is because the counties out west are much larger than that back east, so going by cimply which is largest isn't gonna help.

personally I would go by UA.

when you look at UA you would see that LA doesn't sprawl a lot.

NY has the biggest UA by far. It is 3400 sq miles, but the density is one of the highest.

Chicago has the next largest UA at 2100 sq miles but it too has a high density.

the next largest UA is ATlanta at 2000 sq miles, but its UA density is lower than the densities of the 45 largest metro regions so I think it would win the title for most sprawling.


The other contenders
LA- has the highest density of all urban areas
Phoenix- UA density on par with Chicagos
Houston- Has a UA density higher than Seattle and Phoenix
Dallas- See Houston.
You are half-correct.
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Old 03-15-2012, 02:33 PM
 
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You are half-correct.
was thinking Philly, wrote Phoenix
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Old 03-15-2012, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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was thinking Philly, wrote Phoenix
I was just curious it it HAD changed as Dallas and Houston have both grown tremendously as well.
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Old 03-15-2012, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Keizer, OR
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I live in the LA area, and let me say having sprawl sucks because you drive for an hour and you're still in an urban/suburban area.
No, I'm more of a fan of compact cities, like San Francisco or NYC.
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Old 03-15-2012, 03:43 PM
 
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I was just curious it it HAD changed as Dallas and Houston have both grown tremendously as well.
The numbers have increased tremendously, just don't know how much the physical boundaries of the UA have changed.

The old UA for Houston was primarily just withing Harris County, now it includes The Woodlands, Pearland, Galveston and Texas City

The UA population should be about 5.2M people but the land area probably doubled as well.
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Old 03-15-2012, 03:54 PM
 
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I live in the LA area, and let me say having sprawl sucks because you drive for an hour and you're still in an urban/suburban area.
No, I'm more of a fan of compact cities, like San Francisco or NYC.
You can be in downtown L.A. in half an hour. Don't tell me you can't, I know the 60 Freeway. Have you ever been west of Montebello?
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Old 03-15-2012, 07:56 PM
 
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I think sprawl also means that notable sites and amenities aren't very close to one-another. For instance, if the Sears Tower in Chicago were downtown, Wrigley Field was in Gary, Navy Pier was near the WI border, Michigan Avenue was 5 miles north in the city's more trendy neighborhoods, and if the city neighborhoods themselves weren't packed with restaurants, bars, retail and people, creating a block-by-block destination for urban exploring, then I think Chicago would be considered very "sprawly", when now most all people consider it quite urban. Having things to do NEAR other things to do makes cities seem compact, regardless of the urbanized area population density. This is why I think places like LA, Vegas, Phoenix, etc. seem so amazingly sprawled, when, in fact, they are 3 of the most densely populated urbanized areas in the country!
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