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View Poll Results: The ten most sprawling U.S. cities
Atlanta 194 54.96%
Dallas 142 40.23%
Houston 178 50.42%
Oklahoma City 58 16.43%
Charlotte, NC 71 20.11%
Jacksonville, FL 75 21.25%
Tampa, FL 29 8.22%
Los Angeles 166 47.03%
San Diego 43 12.18%
San Jose, CA 47 13.31%
Sacramento, CA 32 9.07%
Indianapolis 35 9.92%
Columbus, OH 26 7.37%
Nashville, TN 35 9.92%
Memphis, TN 17 4.82%
Lexington, KY 8 2.27%
Phoenix 176 49.86%
Tucson 37 10.48%
Las Vegas 108 30.59%
other (please specify) 42 11.90%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 353. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-04-2009, 12:20 PM
 
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Im pretty sure these are to scale.

CTA has twice as many miles of track but it looks like BART has longer lines. Ive read before that the Pittsburg/Bay Point line is the line in the world but can't find any confirmation of that aside from peoples posts on other message boards.
the Dallas DART rail will be greatly expanded over the next 5 years.

As for other notable lines: The St. Louis Metrolink has done a great job with their line connecting their two area airports and their two business districts.

Houston's and Phoenix's lines are experiencing rapid growth.

But in terms of existing lines...the Boston T, Wash D.C. Metro, NYC's, Chi Town, and SFO are still among the top rail systems in the country.
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Old 01-04-2009, 12:38 PM
 
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Indianapolis area is sprawling like no other. It has to be at least near the top ten.
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Old 01-04-2009, 12:52 PM
 
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The Kansas City metro area has 8723 square miles, and just 2 million people to fill that area. It covers more ground than Connecticut or New Jersey.
The city itself is 319 square miles with only 500k people.

The population figures are estimates from 2007. Both the city and the metro have been growing at a steady pace for many years. The excessive sprawl is nothing to brag about, except that traffic jams are virtually unheard of in KC... at least on the scale that most cities have.
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Old 01-04-2009, 02:33 PM
 
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What the fudge? Chicago has a lot more sprawl than a lot of thoose cities on your list.
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Old 01-04-2009, 07:07 PM
 
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Las Vegas is insane, once a town in the middle of the desert, today a sprawl as far as the eye could see. Not to mention with the recent economy 50% of the cookie cutter homes went down the can, if that ain't a sign that the place is oversprawled I don't know what it.
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Old 01-05-2009, 05:11 AM
 
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As for my opinion on the matter...I'm surprised as some of the numbers of what they define as "sprawled" sq. mileage...b/c many would say DFW would have been higher in terms of growth in "sprawled land area"...NYC was surprising to me in terms of them ranking so highly in growth of "sprawled land area"...since the perception of the public would be the Northeast has no reoom to sprawl......and also surprised with LA, as the term "Los Angelized" is there in American History for a reason when talking a/b low population density spread (aka "sprawl"). Though LA has had interesting zoning laws shrinking plots of land and increasing population density such that there may have been shrinkage of growth in sprawled land over time.
I'm definitely surprised with NYC considering the area around NYC has already been urbanized for such a long time and most cities like those in Long Island, New Jersey, and Westchester county have not been increasing in population.

However, I think most people are confused when it comes to L.A.. As a metro area L.A. has actually been increasing in density for the past few decades. And also L.A. is more dense than most of the other cities on that sprawl list. True it's a huge metro area land wise but it's a relatively dense area. Even many of it's suburbs like Long Beach and Santa Monica have high density just to name a couple.
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Old 01-05-2009, 10:08 AM
 
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I'm definitely surprised with NYC considering the area around NYC has already been urbanized for such a long time and most cities like those in Long Island, New Jersey, and Westchester county have not been increasing in population.

However, I think most people are confused when it comes to L.A.. As a metro area L.A. has actually been increasing in density for the past few decades. And also L.A. is more dense than most of the other cities on that sprawl list. True it's a huge metro area land wise but it's a relatively dense area. Even many of it's suburbs like Long Beach and Santa Monica have high density just to name a couple.
Yes LA is relatively dense all things considered. One thing that keeps popping up about this metro area is where does Greater LA actually end. The LA area is starting to turn into the Northeast in many ways where it is hard to define where principle city metro areas end and another metro area begins.
Some people will say all the way out to Palm Springs and all the way down to Temecula defines the so called 18 million people of "Greater LA".
Using UA definitions, LA is one big continous area that probably drops off right around Yucaipa.

As for DFW where I am located...it's also making several attempts to increase density through zoning laws...especially in our urban core. I kind of think of DFW as where LA was about 20-30 years ago. But it's population is growing rapidly. This decade alone has seen the area grow by >1 milliion people. But the city is set up the same way...an underused light rail/heavy rail system with freeways all over going for miles and miles. DFW has 9200 sq. miles to its metropolitan area. So it'll be interesting to see how the population here in Texas continues to grow at both DFW and Houston and to see if densification comes along with that.

BUt I agree, LA proper has gotten quite dense all things considered...but perception wise...the much more compact Northeast cities and Chicago still give you that "very dense feel"
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Old 01-05-2009, 11:41 AM
 
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Chicago is messed up compared to other places on those sheets.
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Old 01-07-2009, 09:37 AM
 
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New York City Metro (NY-NJ-CT)
Chicago
LA
Bay Area (SF-OAK-San Jose)
Miami
Atlanta
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Old 01-16-2009, 06:37 PM
 
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New York City Metro (NY-NJ-CT)
Chicago
LA
Bay Area (SF-OAK-San Jose)
Miami
Atlanta
Why did you put miami before Atlanta? Atlanta should be at LEAST number 2.
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