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Old 11-22-2010, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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That is horrible to not have to option to shop in your downtown.
Just as equally horrible is the fact that ALL of Philadelphia's upscale Department Stores are not in Center City, but in a mall in suburban King of Prussia.

At least Bloomingdale's, Neiman Marcus, etc. in Orlando are in the City Limits - not in some suburban township.
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Old 11-22-2010, 09:33 AM
 
Location: The City
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Just as equally horrible is the fact that ALL of Philadelphia's upscale Department Stores are not in Center City, but in a mall in suburban King of Prussia.

At least Bloomingdale's, Neiman Marcus, etc. in Orlando are in the City Limits - not in some suburban township.

No John this is just flat out wrong - Saks and Macys are both within the city limits - one is a half block from City hall

And all of Philadelphia's high End shopping is in KOP - that is purely absurd

Rittenhouse Row/Walnut/Chestnut Streets is one the better urban shopping districts in any city center including many many high end boutiques and things you just frankly can't find in any mall
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Old 11-22-2010, 09:37 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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No John this is just flat out wrong - Saks and Macys are both within the city limits - one is a half block from City hall

And all of Philadelphia's high End shopping is in KOP - that is purely absurd

Rittenhouse Row/Walnut/Chestnut Streets is one the better urban shopping districts in any city center including many many high end boutiques and things you just frankly can't find in any mall
So true, I love Philadelphia shopping and lets not forget Jewelers Row. Absolutely awesome.
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Old 11-22-2010, 09:42 AM
 
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Welcome to Easton Town Center in Columbus, Ohio

http://www.thegreene.com/DirectoryMap.aspx

Providence Town Center | Directory

Three cornfield lifestyle centers, three lifestyle centers with streets running through them -- streets that weren't there before the development was built, three regional shopping destinations. Whaddaya know about that.


And I'm guessing you don't get out much. Also, I'm guessing your head is stuck in the sand if you can't acknowledge that not all lifestyle centers are built the same way.
Retail is my profession, yours? My point being your narrow focus is getting in the way of the overall topic. Three instances hardly dictate the overall picture.
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Old 11-22-2010, 09:47 AM
 
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No John this is just flat out wrong - Saks and Macys are both within the city limits - one is a half block from City hall

And all of Philadelphia's high End shopping is in KOP - that is purely absurd

Rittenhouse Row/Walnut/Chestnut Streets is one the better urban shopping districts in any city center including many many high end boutiques and things you just frankly can't find in any mall
I think he's insinuating that Macy's isn't "high end" which is pretty much accurate. The Saks is in fact just inside the city limits near Bala Cynwyd but for all practical purposes far enough away for most city residents to render it out of the loop in terms of accessibility. Philadelphia is a strange bird in that higher end department stores and big box retailers are a good drive away from downtown..particularly given the demographic of Center City residents. Though I think the answer lies within the fact there's such close proximity to The Gallery and Market East..
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Old 11-22-2010, 09:53 AM
 
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I think he's insinuating that Macy's isn't "high end" which is pretty much accurate. The Saks is in fact just inside the city limits near Bala Cynwyd but for all practical purposes far enough away for most city residents to render it out of the loop in terms of accessibility. Philadelphia is a strange bird in that higher end department stores and big box retailers are a good drive away from downtown..particularly given the demographic of Center City residents. Though I think the answer lies within the fact there's such close proximity to The Gallery and Market East..

Oustide of Chicago there are not really malls ***** downtown - though i guess the gallery is, not a god one though

Either way myself in particular prefer shopping in an area like Rittenhouse but usually do go to malls every now and again - honestly I avoid KOP like the plaque, especially around the Holidays - on a side note I just saw Capital Grille opened in KOP - why a mall needs 5 high end steak houses I will never understand

Also some of the Malls in Jersey are actually closer to Center City
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Old 11-22-2010, 10:07 AM
 
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I think he's insinuating that Macy's isn't "high end" which is pretty much accurate. The Saks is in fact just inside the city limits near Bala Cynwyd but for all practical purposes far enough away for most city residents to render it out of the loop in terms of accessibility. Philadelphia is a strange bird in that higher end department stores and big box retailers are a good drive away from downtown..particularly given the demographic of Center City residents. Though I think the answer lies within the fact there's such close proximity to The Gallery and Market East..
That was exactly my point - I don't consider Macy's to be upscale, even though it does occupy the beautiful former flagship John Wanamakers location.

I actually didn't know about Saks being in the city. I thought they were out in Jenkintown, but now I recall that was a Lord & Taylor I was remembering.
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Old 11-22-2010, 10:13 AM
 
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Oustide of Chicago there are not really malls ***** downtown - though i guess the gallery is, not a god one though
San Francisco & Seattle have very nice Downtown malls.

Pacific Place in Seattle is actually connected to Nordstroms U.S. flagship store. Pacific Place - The Ultimate Shopping Experience

San Francisco Centre contains the West Coast flagship Bloomingdale's and a huge Nordstrom. Stores - Westfield San Francisco Centre (http://westfield.com/sanfrancisco/stores/ - broken link)
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Old 11-22-2010, 12:25 PM
 
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Three instances hardly dictate the overall picture.
Perhaps not, but they do get in the way of your uninformed blanket statements.
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Old 11-22-2010, 01:06 PM
 
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San Francisco & Seattle have very nice Downtown malls.

Pacific Place in Seattle is actually connected to Nordstroms U.S. flagship store. Pacific Place - The Ultimate Shopping Experience

San Francisco Centre contains the West Coast flagship Bloomingdale's and a huge Nordstrom. Stores - Westfield San Francisco Centre (http://westfield.com/sanfrancisco/stores/ - broken link)
I actually went to San Francisco's mall and it was a nice upscale mall and many places looked like they were independent non-chains (the food cafeteria at least) with some chains like Borders or Barnes and Noble. I think malls are ok even in cities, as long as they don't destroy downtown's business because I really like walking around outside in downtown as it feels more special than walking in a mall. However during cold weather I actually think its good to have an indoor mall. I don't like malls in suburban areas because they don't feel special and I feel they contribute to sprawl.
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