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Old 11-21-2010, 01:51 AM
 
Location: South South Jersey
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Hmmm.... yes, the South does have newcomers other than Northeasterners - (Mid)Westerners, etc. - it's just that the Northeasterners are the most annoying of the recent transplants.

Hee hee.. just kidding.. sorta...
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Old 11-21-2010, 08:44 AM
 
Location: metro ATL
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The insult comes when Northerners think that the only reason southern culture has evolved is because they have moved here.
Not the only reason, but definitely part of the reason. Immigration also changed culture in the Northeast and Midwest 100 years ago or so and in the West as well. However, a big difference is that the cultural impact of immigrants in the Northeast and Midwest from 100 years ago is mostly seen within historic urban neighborhoods of the major cities of those regions, while in the South, the cultural impact of Northern/Midwestern migrants are largely relegated to sprawl outside of the city where most of them choose to settle.
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Old 11-21-2010, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Floribama
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But getting back to the influence of the Northeast on the South. Politics is just one example. Yankees also brought a sense of tolerance of racial & sexual diversity long overdue for the South. It is the challenge to the Bible-Belt that the Northeast has been effective in breaking down.
Hmm, wasn't it the Yankee transplants that wanted to resegregate the schools in Wake County NC?
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Old 11-21-2010, 09:38 AM
 
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You are worse than the Northerners stereotyping Southerners. Have you ever been to Westfield, NJ, Ridgewood, NJ, Villanova, PA, Rye, NY etc....? Yep, real dumps.

BTW, the state of NC is, financially, a mess. I will also go so far as to say that these southern states have improved culturally since the Northern migration began.


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Haha. How original. All your stereotypical insults dont change that fact that millions have fled the rotted North in exchange for the South. That speaks for itself.
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Old 11-21-2010, 09:41 AM
 
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Get your facts straight before spouting off. Kids are being bussed all over the county in the name of diversity. People are tired of having their kids bussed 20 miles away just to be part of a social experiment.

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Hmm, wasn't it the Yankee transplants that wanted to resegregate the schools in Wake County NC?
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Old 11-21-2010, 11:30 AM
 
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The insult comes when Northerners think that the only reason southern culture has evolved is because they have moved here. Whether liberal or conservative, regardless of the amounts of transplants, we are not like you. We won't be like you; we don't want to be like you. Not that you are bad per se, but there is a different culture here than yours. Part of what I understand about your culture is that you are understanding and accepting of other cultures. Correct?
You don't want to be us like us except you want to make our money. Then when you can't, you complain about us.
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Old 11-21-2010, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Historically, West Virginia (western Virginia at the time) was one of the first to experience "Northeasternization", thanks in large part to the B&O Railroad, which brought in thousands of northern workers. Two of three heads of households in Wheeling in 1860 were not native Virginians, and Grafton, an important hub of the B&O in Taylor County, had a population nearly 50% non-Virginian. These towns became centers of Unionism during the war, while just a few miles away from the railroad were towns that were centers of secessionism, like Philippi only 17 miles away where the population was mostly native Virginian.
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Old 11-21-2010, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Rome, Georgia
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You don't want to be us like us except you want to make our money. Then when you can't, you complain about us.
Money is low on my list of priorities. You should try it. Makes you care about all sorts of things that really are important.

I only complain about you complaining about us, and perpetuating old stereotypes while wallowing in your glorious sense of superiority. I have no issues with 99% of northerners, and no issues at all with northerners just because they are from the north. My problem is with the lack of historical understanding of circumstances that some northerners use to paint us with their broadest brushes, all the while touting their benevolent understanding of cultural acceptance, while denouncing all southerners as being racist religious nuts. It just seems hypocritical sometimes is all.

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Old 11-21-2010, 01:37 PM
 
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Money is low on my list of priorities. You should try it. Makes you care about all sorts of things that really are important.

I only complain about you complaining about us, and perpetuating old stereotypes while wallowing in your glorious sense of superiority. I have no issues with 99% of northerners, and no issues at all with northerners just because they are from the north. My problem is with the lack of historical understanding of circumstances that some northerners use to paint us with their broadest brushes, all the while tauting their benevolent understanding of cultural acceptance, while denouncing all southerners as being racist religious nuts. It just seems hypocritical sometimes is all.
Every once in a while I do this:

STANDING OVATION!

Encore! Georgiafrog!
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Old 11-21-2010, 02:01 PM
 
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You don't want to be us like us except you want to make our money. Then when you can't, you complain about us.
Excuse me?

Given trends of migration vis a vis North and South, I would say it is y'all who want to make OUR money!

I agree completely with GeorgiaFrog in the summation presented. It is NOT an issue of leftovers from the War Between the States. Nor that Southerners inherently disdain northerners.

Hell, if anything, the opposite is much more likely to be the general rule of thumb.

Sorry, but that is the generalization that has been my 52 years of experience as a native Texan/Southerner. Yankees who come down here and, from day one, never try to assimilate, have a barely concealed disdain and contempt for our ways, our speech, our mannerisms, etc, etc. ad nauseum.

THEN? Have the nerve to say that Southern Hospitality is "fake and false"...never connecting the dots. To wit: Southern friendliness is there for anyone who is open to it...but it comes with the small price of being willing to understand us in turn. And our unique history and culture.

True. We don't much cotton to those who come into our home and tell us -- if not in words, but condecending attitude -- what backward, slow-drawling, racist, Bible-thumping hicks we are. And how much better it was Up North. Love our milk and honey, but don't care to really get to know us or become one of us.

Finally...yeah...I know, I know, I am ranting and raving here...but sometime can't stop myself once I get on a roll....

I ain't got a thing in the world against notherners per se. As it is, my own kids are "half-yankee" (their mother, my ex, is a northerner) and I have, personally, never had anything but good times and great memories of visiting up North.

Hell, other than the strange accents and them not knowing what black-eyed peas and fried okra are? Or understanding what I meant when I asked what kinda "cokes" they had? I sorta took a real liking to most of them yankees!

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