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My list would be similar to OyCrumbler and slengel, but slightly different. Here's mine, in no exact order(just their tier):
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Minneapolis-Saint Paul
Saint Louis
Detroit
Cleveland-Akron
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Indianapolis
Columbus(for whatever reason, in a weird way, I've always oddly thought of Indy and Columbus as cousin cities)
Cleveland
Kansas City
Milwaukee
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Omaha
Des Moines
Wichita
Grand Rapids
Sioux Falls, SD
Madison, WI
Fargo
Bloomington, IN
Quad Cities
Green Bay
Lincoln, NE
Rochester, MN
Appleton, WI
I think you put Cleveland on there twice instead of Cincinnati. Also, I think your lower tier has some cities that I wouldn't include (Sioux Falls, Bloomington, Fargo, Appleton) whereas I would include places like Flint, MI; Peoria, IL,; Toledo, OH; as well as some of the smaller state capitals like Lansing, MI; Springfield, IL; and perhaps Topeka, KS.
another person who only lists cities he's been to, lol. st. louis has a bigger gdp than any city in ohio.
Wow, I didn't realize that all those times I was in St. Louis (including just last summer for a Saturday Cardinals-Brewers game), that I actually wasn't there at all
I think you put Cleveland on there twice instead of Cincinnati. Also, I think your lower tier has some cities that I wouldn't include (Sioux Falls, Bloomington, Fargo, Appleton) whereas I would include places like Flint, MI; Peoria, IL,; Toledo, OH; as well as some of the smaller state capitals like Lansing, MI; Springfield, IL; and perhaps Topeka, KS.
Yeah, putting Cincinnati instead of Cleveland was what I meant to do in my 2nd tier, but didn't catch that error in time after I posted. And yes, I wasn't very sure which cities to put in my 3rd tier, since there are so many you can choose from. I probably should've just skipped doing the 3rd tier, lol....
by 1870 st. louis left cincinnati in the dust and never looked back. to say that st. louis doesn't deserve a prominent place in the history of the midwest is absolutely ridiculous.
How did it "leave it in the dust?" Because they have always been very similar and on two very distinct levels of growth and prosperity.
How did it "leave it in the dust?" Because they have always been very similar and on two very distinct levels of growth and prosperity.
by 1870, st. louis had surpassed cincinnati in population. by 1890, st. louis's population had nearly doubled that of cincinnati. by 1910, cincinnati had dropped out of the top 10 cities, where st. louis remained for another 50 years. st. louis continued to skyrocket in population, peaking at 857,000 in 1950. cincinnati peaked the same year with just 504,000. that's a big difference. the two cities really weren't in the same league throughout most of the 20th century. politically and socially, cincinnati has always been and remains to this day far more conservative than st. louis, making it an anomaly among major midwestern cities.
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