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Old 07-10-2007, 09:26 PM
 
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Anybody with experience that can compare these? Trying to decide where to move, these are possibilities. Did earlier post re: young family for general suggestions, but to recap briefly: young family-want city amenities, non-exorbitant cost of living, safety at least in parts (I know, St. Louis in general isn't safe!), good public schools, some anonymity.
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Old 07-10-2007, 09:45 PM
 
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St. Louis is just like any other city. Parts are safe, and parts aren't. The vast majority of the metro area is safe as can be. Just stay away from north and east St. Louis, and you'll be fine.
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Old 07-10-2007, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Centennial. CO, DTC, South Denver
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I actually love Southeast Denver. There is a little town called Parker Colorado which is close to the city life but also allows you to get away from the "big city" stuff and relax.
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Old 07-10-2007, 09:50 PM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Of those 4, I would pick Denver.

Pittsburgh, where I grew up, has a poor economy and lots of old people. Suburban schools mostly good. Low cost of living (housing) due to poor economy, generally very safe. Awful climate in winter, spring, OK summer, gorgeous falls.

Denver: good economy, lots of young people, good suburban schools. Probably the highest housing cost of the 4, though fairly moderate compared to many. Look it up on city-data. Generally safe. Good 4 season climate. Not near as many snowy days as you probably think. Sometimes too hot in the summer.

Don't know enough about the other two, but I personally don't like hot, humid weather, which both have in abundance.
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Old 07-10-2007, 11:35 PM
 
Location: Lincoln, Nebraska (moving to Ohio)
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I would say probubly Louisville would be the most family-friendly city out of all of these cities.

In Denver alot of resources are going to be going towards ESL programs and Denver school funding is very low compared to other cities. Its housing values are also the highest out these four cities especially for a family-neighborhood like Belcaro, Hilltop, South Park Hill, Washington Park. The cheap neighborhoods in Denver are not family-friendly IMO. But you could try Jefferson county which borders Denver county or El Paso County (Colorado Springs) Colorado Springs is full of amenities and the northside of that city has lots of families, affordable and communtable to Denver.

A house in a family-friendly neighborhood of Denver will probubly be prettty expensive, Northern Colorado Springs or suburban Jefferson County will probubly be half as much as Denver proper.

Colorado Springs 60 miles south of Denver would be much more family-friendly especially School District 20 which is Briargate and Colorado Springs is the
3rd cheapest front range county. Its slightly more then the other cities, economy isnt good in Colorado Springs but Denver's suburbs are commutable from District 20. So, basically Denver could be a family-friendly option for you but I would recommend either Jefferson County or El Paso County for reasonable home values.

Anyway, Louisville and Jefferson and El Paso County,Colorado would probubly be areas you might want check into.
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Old 07-10-2007, 11:45 PM
 
Location: St. Louis, MO
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St. Louis in general not safe? That's a good one. As long as you stay out of North and East St. Louis, which make up a SMALL portion of the MSA, you are safe. Ranked as an MSA St. Louis is not the most dangerous city in the nation. I never go to North or East St. Louis, there is nothing there really worth going to for. St. Louis is a very safe city outside of these parts. The most I've ever had a crime committed in the suburb I live in in the 20 years I've lived here is maybe once or twice. That's it. St. Louis is no more dangerous than any other city in the Midwest. Chicago, Cleveland, Detroit, Milwaukee, Cincinnati, KC, and Minneapolis are as dangerous/more dangerous as St. Louis...it really makes me mad how St. Louis City is used to represent the MSA....St. Louis City is far too small to be used to represent the MSA's safety, IMO.
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Old 07-11-2007, 05:03 PM
 
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St. Louis is extremely family friendly. It isn't the best place for young single 20-30 somethings, but a great place for married couples with kids, and for kids to grow up. It's also safe. The problem with the safety stats is that it doesn't include St. Louis County which is VERY safe.

All of your choices would be fine for young familes with your interests. Size wize Denver and St. Louis are bigger than Pittsburgh and Louisville is smallest.

Do you prefer certain size, weather, part of the country, lifestyle etc...?
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Old 07-11-2007, 08:43 PM
 
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Anybody with experience that can compare these? Trying to decide where to move, these are possibilities. Did earlier post re: young family for general suggestions, but to recap briefly: young family-want city amenities, non-exorbitant cost of living, safety at least in parts (I know, St. Louis in general isn't safe!), good public schools, some anonymity.
I think Louisville is safer and more family friendly, but is a bit smaller than the other cities for now. It is also generally cheaper and growing faster. I would choose Louisville for a mid sized city, and Denver for a bit larger one, as they seem to be growing much faster than the other two choices and have better economies. St. Louis and Pittsburgh are awesome towns though, and both are safe despite what people say.
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Old 07-12-2007, 02:26 PM
 
Location: LaSalle Park / St. Louis
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I think you could be happy in any of the listed cities. STL, Pittsburgh & Denver are of similar size. But to me it's not so much which city you live in but where in that city you choose to live and what sort of things you like to do. I live in St. Louis so I know that it has great neighborhoods (and yes they're safe) and it has good music venues, art facilities, outdoor recreation, sports and restaurants. I'm sure the other cities have some of the same.
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Old 07-23-2007, 09:59 AM
 
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these cities all have there problems. Pittsburgh has alot of poverty problems. St. Louis has major crime problems. Denver needs a larger metro, along with louisville.
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