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This thread has two components asking two questions:
Are New York and Los Angeles in a different stratosphere from other cities when it comes to dividing into subregions and basically villages in towns in all ways but municipally? First off, these cities divide into their own subregions with a sense of place. New York, of course, divides int boroughs (counties), where one of the outer boroughs once was a major city and even today has attributes of being the city it once was.
While Los Angeles has no official defined governmental regions like New York, its major regions (basin, valley, harbor) can be seen corresponding to Queens, Staten Island, Bronx, etc.
There seems nothing that can comparable in other US cities.
Also different in NY and LA in their boroughs/subregions are former towns and villages that still feel like separate communities they once were. Think Riverdale, Forest Hills, St. George, Westwood, Encino, San Pedro. I would contend no other city comes close to NY and LA in this distinction.
Are there neighborhoods in other US cities other than NY oo LA that still feel like the villages and towns they once were?. so obviously I’m thinking niwhere on the NY/LA scale, but that issolated examples do exist. As a Chicagoan, I might include the “college town” of Hyde Park or perhaps one time suburbs that grew on commuter rail lines like Norwood Park or Edison Park. How about in other cities?
To a lesser extent,Boston. I’ve met people who LIVE in Boston who didn’t realize that places like Charlestown, Brighton and Jamaica Plain were actually city neighborhoods. I think this has a lot to do with the fact that the mailing address in these neighborhoods is the neighborhood name and not Boston, MA.
To a lesser extent,Boston. I’ve met people who LIVE in Boston who didn’t realize that places like Charlestown, Brighton and Jamaica Plain were actually city neighborhoods. I think this has a lot to do with the fact that the mailing address in these neighborhoods is the neighborhood name and not Boston, MA.
History and its own location across the Charles very much gives Charlestown a sense of being a city.
Yeah I’d say so. When I was in LA often times I couldn’t tell if I was even still in LA proper or not. Some places, like Beverly Hills and West Hollywood I already knew were separate cities from LA, but overall I just found that kind of confusing since it all kind of just blends together.
In NYC you know when you’re entering/exiting the city limits, and you know when you’re crossing from one borough into another since everything for the most part is on a different island or has some sort of body of water you need to cross by bridge or tunnel, which is pretty much impossible to not notice. The only part that gets a little tricky with NYC is Eastern Brooklyn/Queens which are on the same island and have nothing that physically separates them like Newtown Creek does in the West.
Yeah I’d say so. When I was in LA often times I couldn’t tell if I was even still in LA proper or not. Some places, like Beverly Hills and West Hollywood I already knew were separate cities from LA, but overall I just found that kind of confusing since it all kind of just blends together.
In NYC you know when you’re entering/exiting the city limits, and you know when you’re crossing from one borough into another since everything for the most part is on a different island or has some sort of body of water you need to cross by bridge or tunnel, which is pretty much impossible to not notice. The only part that gets a little tricky with NYC is Eastern Brooklyn/Queens which are on the same island and have nothing that physically separates them like Newtown Creek does in the West.
They still LA to everyone just like Miami Beach to Miami
Yeah I’d say so. When I was in LA often times I couldn’t tell if I was even still in LA proper or not. Some places, like Beverly Hills and West Hollywood I already knew were separate cities from LA, but overall I just found that kind of confusing since it all kind of just blends together.
In NYC you know when you’re entering/exiting the city limits, and you know when you’re crossing from one borough into another since everything for the most part is on a different island or has some sort of body of water you need to cross by bridge or tunnel, which is pretty much impossible to not notice. The only part that gets a little tricky with NYC is Eastern Brooklyn/Queens which are on the same island and have nothing that physically separates them like Newtown Creek does in the West.
Hope I don't get flack for this, but if the "real" New York is Manhattan, then the "real" Los Angeles is the basin. So in the wonderful, wacky world of LA LA Land, Beverly Hills, Santa Monica, and West Hollywood are like full-fledged LA, all prominently located in the Basin. San Pedro way down in the harbor and Northridge in the alley are municipally part of LA....but not in the "real" LA (and again....sorry for that....I realize there is no "real" NY or "real" LA)
So Beverly Hills and West Hollywood are "of the city" but not in it, while San Pedro and Northridge are "in the city" but not of it. (ok....sorry again for that one)
Georgetown is so much the product of the historical independent city it was. I suspect that many people actually think the "George" in Georgetown was Washington. Obviously Georgetown predates Washington by many years.
Yeah I’d say so. When I was in LA often times I couldn’t tell if I was even still in LA proper or not. Some places, like Beverly Hills and West Hollywood I already knew were separate cities from LA, but overall I just found that kind of confusing since it all kind of just blends together.
In NYC you know when you’re entering/exiting the city limits, and you know when you’re crossing from one borough into another since everything for the most part is on a different island or has some sort of body of water you need to cross by bridge or tunnel, which is pretty much impossible to not notice. The only part that gets a little tricky with NYC is Eastern Brooklyn/Queens which are on the same island and have nothing that physically separates them like Newtown Creek does in the West.
I even find there to be an immediate change of vibe going across the Queens/Nassau border. Not just the iconic NYC traffic lights, but I find that pretty quickly it starts feeling urban.
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