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Old 07-15-2013, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Chicago(Northside)
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It won't be for a long, long time...

Houston is BOOMING right now.
Houston can get all the people they want with there land the size of a planet compared to other cities, but Houston will never be as important as Chicago. Houston will ALWAYS be below Chicago.

 
Old 07-15-2013, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Chicago(Northside)
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Chicago's a sinking ship. Illinois is horribly run because the city of Chicago runs the states' politics. A lot of people are leaving for more efficiently run states. Chicago used to have 2.8 million citizens, now it has 2.7. It won't be long before Houston, with all of their land area, surpasses Chicago's population.
Chicago is actually estimated to grow this year.
 
Old 07-15-2013, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Chicago(Northside)
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Blacks are fleeing LA, Chicago, and Detroit for the South.....
umm maybe Chicago and Detroit but not LA.
 
Old 07-15-2013, 10:23 PM
 
Location: Upper East Side of Texas
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Houston can get all the people they want with there land the size of a planet compared to other cities, but Houston will never be as important as Chicago. Houston will ALWAYS be below Chicago.
Houston will probably be larger than Chicago in the not so distant future. Whether people want to accept the fact Houston is becoming a global city is another thing.

Houston was recently ranked as the most diverse city in America, not Chicago, NYC, or LA. That speaks volumes about the city itself.
 
Old 07-15-2013, 11:15 PM
 
Location: Baghdad by the Bay (San Francisco, California)
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So, here's a total hypothetical for you. What if Houston were to annex several of its suburbs tomorrow? No population growth or infrastructure change, just a re-draw of the city limits. And, lets say that re-draw made the city of Houston's population larger than the cities of Chicago or Los Angeles. Remember, nothing else changes, just the width of the radius of the imaginary line drawn around City Hall and the number associated with the City of Houston. What would happen? What would change?

Would Houston now be "more important" than either of those cities? Would its media market change? Would anything about its demographics or urban development change? Would it be any more or less interesting?
 
Old 07-15-2013, 11:30 PM
 
Location: Vineland, NJ
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So, here's a total hypothetical for you. What if Houston were to annex several of its suburbs tomorrow? No population growth or infrastructure change, just a re-draw of the city limits. And, lets say that re-draw made the city of Houston's population larger than the cities of Chicago or Los Angeles. Remember, nothing else changes, just the width of the radius of the imaginary line drawn around City Hall and the number associated with the City of Houston. What would happen? What would change?

Would Houston now be "more important" than either of those cities? Would its media market change? Would anything about its demographics or urban development change? Would it be any more or less interesting?
All it does is make the city look good on the stat sheets but other than that it changes nothing.
 
Old 07-16-2013, 01:19 AM
 
Location: Upper East Side of Texas
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So, here's a total hypothetical for you. What if Houston were to annex several of its suburbs tomorrow? No population growth or infrastructure change, just a re-draw of the city limits. And, lets say that re-draw made the city of Houston's population larger than the cities of Chicago or Los Angeles. Remember, nothing else changes, just the width of the radius of the imaginary line drawn around City Hall and the number associated with the City of Houston. What would happen? What would change?

Would Houston now be "more important" than either of those cities? Would its media market change? Would anything about its demographics or urban development change? Would it be any more or less interesting?
Houston doesn't need to annex suburbs & unincorporated areas to grow anymore.

There are high density urban projects popping up all inside Houston's inner loop & beyond.
 
Old 07-16-2013, 02:04 AM
 
Location: Baghdad by the Bay (San Francisco, California)
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Houston doesn't need to annex suburbs & unincorporated areas to grow anymore.

There are high density urban projects popping up all inside Houston's inner loop & beyond.
Do you understand the meaning of the word, "hypothetical"?

The point was illustrate how arbitrary city boundaries that define population numbers, while overlapping larger areas are insignificant. For instance, the city populations of Austin and San Francisco are approximately the same. Are these two cities comparable in terms of importance or even silly CD rankings by Tyler posters?

I know you don't understand. You have made it quite clear that you believe an urban area of 6 million can be larger than an urban area 9 million, based on how big someone draws a circle on a map.

They could do it tomorrow in Houston. Houston could draw its city limits and be bigger than the city of Chicago. It would still be smaller, though.

Matt's head just exploded.
 
Old 07-16-2013, 05:51 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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I don't really consider it a New York, Chicago, even Miami level city. No.
It definitely is on Miami's level. Definitely.
 
Old 07-16-2013, 09:15 AM
 
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True

It is large, but its not as large as Houston & Galveston's ports.

The Port of Houston ranks #1 in foreign tonnage & 2nd only to Southern Louisiana domestically. Texas has some of the largest sea ports in the nation, even larger than California's.

List of ports in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As you can see, Long Beach ranks 4th & Los Angeles ranks down the list at 13th.
I didn't say it was the biggest, just one of. You were acting like Houston had something that LA did not, I was just saying that wasn't true, and the future trade from Asia is going to dwarf any growth in the Port of Houston. Houston is certainly up and coming, it is going to be a big player in the nation. Now if Houston's CSA is 6 million and Chicago's is 10 million and not growing barely at all I could see Houston overtaking greater Chicago SOMEDAY. Whether that will make it "more important" than Chicago is up for debate as city size and importance are not synonymous. But if you think it is going to pass LA's 17 million (which is growing rather nicely, never really has stopped growing) I think you may need to re-evaluate things a bit.
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