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Old 07-16-2013, 12:22 PM
 
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Houston was recently rated the most diverse city in America if you keep up with that sorta stuff.
This fetishization of "diversity" is truly one of the most bizarre memes of modern times.

You could live in a neighborhood with 100 families of every shade, ethnicity, religion, all living in the same cookie cutter homes, living the same materialistic lifestyle, taking the same anti-depressants....

or you could live in a lily white small city that has hippies, yuppies, gays, truckers, Amish, Orthodox Jews, anarchists, enviromentalist back to earthers, intellectuals, Mormons, hillbillies, country club golfers, small-scale farmers, factory workers etc....

but the former is praised for its diversity, while the latter is excoriated for being "lily white".

 
Old 07-16-2013, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Upper East Side of Texas
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This fetishization of "diversity" is truly one of the most bizarre memes of modern times.

You could live in a neighborhood with 100 families of every shade, ethnicity, religion, all living in the same cookie cutter homes, living the same materialistic lifestyle, taking the same anti-depressants....

or you could live in a lily white small city that has hippies, yuppies, gays, truckers, Amish, Orthodox Jews, anarchists, enviromentalist back to earthers, intellectuals, Mormons, hillbillies, country club golfers, small-scale farmers, factory workers etc....

but the former is praised for its diversity, while the latter is excoriated for being "lily white".
Diversity is what helps make a city dynamic as is the case with Houston.

Think of how boring life would be if you could never interact with other cultures just your own.
 
Old 07-16-2013, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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This fetishization of "diversity" is truly one of the most bizarre memes of modern times.

You could live in a neighborhood with 100 families of every shade, ethnicity, religion, all living in the same cookie cutter homes, living the same materialistic lifestyle, taking the same anti-depressants....

or you could live in a lily white small city that has hippies, yuppies, gays, truckers, Amish, Orthodox Jews, anarchists, enviromentalist back to earthers, intellectuals, Mormons, hillbillies, country club golfers, small-scale farmers, factory workers etc....

but the former is praised for its diversity, while the latter is excoriated for being "lily white".
Some (like me) would argue that the latter was a truer form of "diversity" than the former. I like to differentiate the two by calling them "racial diversity" and "cultural diversity", respectively. A "diverse" city is more culturally diverse than racially diverse, but both are usually needed.
 
Old 07-16-2013, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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Diversity is what helps make a city dynamic as is the case with Houston.

Think of how boring life would be if you could never interact with other cultures just your own.
That's his point: that racial diversity alone doesn't make people different.....they only LOOK different. Cultural diversity (gay, straight, Amish, Jewish, Repub/Democrat, etc.) is the key.
 
Old 07-16-2013, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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I don't imagine seeing Houston as the second-largest city in the U.S. in my lifetime and certainly not the second-largest metro.
 
Old 07-16-2013, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Upper East Side of Texas
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That's his point: that racial diversity alone doesn't make people different.....they only LOOK different. Cultural diversity (gay, straight, Amish, Jewish, Repub/Democrat, etc.) is the key.
Houston has plenty of cultural diversity too.

First openly lesbian mayor in US history, but that's not really cultural because gays & lesbians don't have their own culture its just their sexual preference.
 
Old 07-16-2013, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Vineland, NJ
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This is true. Houston does have a very high GDP, but GDP alone isn't everything for a city's overall importance as a financial center. If it was, then LA would be considered a more important financial center than Chicago. It's not.
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If you go by MSAs though, then wouldn't that push Houston further down the list? The Dallas MSA is bigger, even if Houston proper is the larger city. Or does the fact that Fort Worth is apart of that MSA overrule that idea?
How odd would it be if Houston became the 2nd largest city but was still not the largest MSA in it's state. Only in Texas can something like this ever happen.
 
Old 07-16-2013, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Upper East Side of Texas
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How odd would it be if Houston became the 2nd largest city but was still not the largest MSA in it's state. Only in Texas can something like this ever happen.
D/FW is only larger than Houston by 500,000 people. As someone else said about Houston & Chicago; sure, on paper it may look good. Its not like a drastic difference & besides just looking at the two metros in person Houston looks & feels way bigger even if its not...taller buildings & more of them, super wide freeways with stacks upon stacks of overpasses, ethnic neighborhoods, etc. all contribute to Houston's larger image.
 
Old 07-16-2013, 01:34 PM
 
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Yet Houston has arguable the worst urban core experience of any of the top 10 metros. It's downtown is almost nothing but office towers. At Least Dallas has uptown and West Village which is a decent urban experience. That's why Dallas to me feels larger.
 
Old 07-16-2013, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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This fetishization of "diversity" is truly one of the most bizarre memes of modern times.

You could live in a neighborhood with 100 families of every shade, ethnicity, religion, all living in the same cookie cutter homes, living the same materialistic lifestyle, taking the same anti-depressants....

or you could live in a lily white small city that has hippies, yuppies, gays, truckers, Amish, Orthodox Jews, anarchists, enviromentalist back to earthers, intellectuals, Mormons, hillbillies, country club golfers, small-scale farmers, factory workers etc....

but the former is praised for its diversity, while the latter is excoriated for being "lily white".
Absolutely - I live in a city that has more blacks than whites (Milwaukee) but the neighborhoods themselves are filled with quite similar people and no one ever points to a white minority city like Milwaukee, DC or Detroit and says "OK people, here's the model. Oh yeah, diversity rules!"
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