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Old 06-30-2013, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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I'm talking about unemployment rates, and how cities like Atlanta, Charlotte, Miami, Phoenix, LA, etc. do not have low rates (i.e. plentiful jobs). Texas is the outlier, but by and large a lot of Sun Belt states are struggling to create good jobs. Blame it on the population boom I guess.
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Old 06-30-2013, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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I'm talking about unemployment rates, and how cities like Atlanta, Charlotte, Miami, Phoenix, LA, etc. do not have low rates (i.e. plentiful jobs). Texas is the outlier, but by and large a lot of Sun Belt states are struggling to create good jobs. Blame it on the population boom I guess.
Charlotte has never recovered from the financial crisis. It had very low unemployment prior to 2008. Much of the Sunbelt is in the same situation. Texas has plenty of tech and oil/gas jobs, both fields that are doing well right now. That's why they have been able to maintain a low unemployment rate.
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Old 06-30-2013, 05:56 PM
 
Location: St Simons Island, GA
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Yes, the Sunbelt is in recovery mode.It must be devastating for those that wish it otherwise (and God knows you're out there), but there it is.
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Old 06-30-2013, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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Yes, the Sunbelt is in recovery mode.It must be devastating for those that wish it otherwise (and God knows you're out there), but there it is.
Oh boy, another victim! We're just arguing about why the Sun Belt may NOT be the greatest region of the country, and I noted that the jobs situation wasn't the best (which was responded with articles about employment growth in Sun Belt cities, and is why I mentioned the overall unemployment rate). Nobody is ragging on the Sun Belt right now -- at least, not needlessly.
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Old 06-30-2013, 06:32 PM
 
Location: St Simons Island, GA
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Oh boy, another victim! We're just arguing about why the Sun Belt may NOT be the greatest region of the country, and I noted that the jobs situation wasn't the best (which was responded with articles about employment growth in Sun Belt cities, and is why I mentioned the overall unemployment rate). Nobody is ragging on the Sun Belt right now -- at least, not needlessly.
Like I said...victim? I don't think we're nearly as worried about our region as OTHERS.
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Old 06-30-2013, 06:34 PM
 
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I'm talking about unemployment rates, and how cities like Atlanta, Charlotte, Miami, Phoenix, LA, etc. do not have low rates (i.e. plentiful jobs). Texas is the outlier, but by and large a lot of Sun Belt states are struggling to create good jobs. Blame it on the population boom I guess.
The national unemployment rate is 7.1%. The Sunbelt metros outside of Texas with unemployment rates at least 0.5% lower than that are:

OKC: 4.1%
Tulsa: 4.7%
Santa Fe: 4.9%
Birmingham: 5.2%
Huntsville: 5.2%
Baton Rouge: 5.9%
Charleston: 6.0%
Greenville: 6.0%
New Orleans: 6.2%
Pensacola: 6.2%
San Francisco/Oakland: 6.2%
Durham: 6.3%
Jacksonville: 6.3%
Albuquerque: 6.4%
Jackson: 6.4%
Nashville: 6.4%
Orlando: 6.4%
Columbia: 6.5%
Sarasota: 6.5%
Asheville: 6.6%
Phoenix: 6.6%
San Jose: 6.6%
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Old 06-30-2013, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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The national unemployment rate is 7.1%. The Sunbelt metros outside of Texas with unemployment rates at least 0.5% lower than that are:

OKC: 4.1%
Tulsa: 4.7%
Santa Fe: 4.9%
Birmingham: 5.2%
Huntsville: 5.2%
Baton Rouge: 5.9%
Charleston: 6.0%
Greenville: 6.0%
New Orleans: 6.2%
Pensacola: 6.2%
San Francisco/Oakland: 6.2%
Durham: 6.3%
Jacksonville: 6.3%
Albuquerque: 6.4%
Jackson: 6.4%
Nashville: 6.4%
Orlando: 6.4%
Columbia: 6.5%
Sarasota: 6.5%
Asheville: 6.6%
Phoenix: 6.6%
San Jose: 6.6%
Cool, want me to do the same for non-Sun Belt cities?

*Edit: I didn't realize we're considering San Jose (and presumably SF) as the "Sun Belt"...
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Old 06-30-2013, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Sunbelt
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Do these lower income per capita numbers take into account the fact that the Sunbelt cities are cheaper and the employers are paying somewhat commensurate to the COL? I could take a person making the average low in NYC or the Bay Area and compare them to a similar person in Texas, and on paper, yeah, the guy in Texas would be making less. But if the person from NYC moved to Texas, they definitely wouldn't be making what they did in NYC.

Also, what's with this weird obsession with the South, and constantly ragging on it? Is the region rivalry switching places? It always seems like some Northerner has something terrible to say about Houston/Dallas, Atlanta, Florida, etc. I don't see Southerners starting up threads about "Why Philly is headed down" or "Boston's unemployment rate and terrible winter".
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Old 06-30-2013, 07:49 PM
 
Location: The canyon (with my pistols and knife)
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...what's with this weird obsession with the South, and constantly ragging on it? Is the region rivalry switching places? It always seems like some Northerner has something terrible to say about Houston/Dallas, Atlanta, Florida, etc. I don't see Southerners starting up threads about "Why Philly is headed down" or "Boston's unemployment rate and terrible winter".
It probably has to do with the fact that it's a discussion that's completely opposite of the prevailing accepted narrative of the last 30 years.
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Old 06-30-2013, 07:50 PM
 
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Cool, want me to do the same for non-Sun Belt cities?
If you want to, but I don't see the purpose since my point was to show you that not all Sunbelt metros are suffering from high unemployment.

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*Edit: I didn't realize we're considering San Jose (and presumably SF) as the "Sun Belt"...
The Bay Area isn't typically thought of as a Sunbelt metro but technically it is included: Sun Belt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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