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Old 02-07-2011, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Cardiff
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I'm not sure how relevant this is, but its the best section I could find.

Id like to understand more about certain cultures in Canadian US cities. Ive lived in 5 countries so I already bypass most peoples' understanding of cultures.

We don't have bums we call them 'Neds' in Scotland and 'Chavs' in the rest of the UK. All major cities are riddled with them in the UK and even small towns and villages have them in abundance.

Are bums the same? or do you have a completely different type of class in your society?

Ned (Scottish) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


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Anyone fancy moving to Glasgow?
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Old 02-07-2011, 11:49 AM
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Location: A Yankee in northeast TN
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No, a bum is a beggar, someone who survives off handouts for the most part. Often they are people who are homeless and have mental problems or substance abuse problems. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/bum.jpg

The kids in your video might be referred to as gangbangers, thugs, hoodlums, etc. We have plenty of our own here in the states, no need to go abroad to find them.
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Old 02-07-2011, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Cardiff
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No, a bum is a beggar, someone who survives off handouts for the most part. Often they are people who are homeless and have mental problems or substance abuse problems. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/bum.jpg

The kids in your video might be referred to as gangbangers, thugs, hoodlums, etc. We have plenty of our own here in the states, no need to go abroad to find them.
Are those gangbangers you describe the same as those gang types associated with north side and south side who carry guns? whats the most common nickname? we just call neds, neds and that's it but in Edinburgh its 'schemies'.

Our neds are 75% young teenagers or young 20 something.
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Old 02-07-2011, 12:13 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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You'll find gangs of youth in practically any large U.S. city and many smaller ones as well. Just take your pick. However, gangs are generally relegated to only certain parts of a city/metro area. Most people just go on with their lives and have little to do with them.
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Old 02-07-2011, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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Are those gangbangers you describe the same as those gang types associated with north side and south side who carry guns? whats the most common nickname? we just call neds, neds and that's it but in Edinburgh its 'schemies'.

Our neds are 75% young teenagers or young 20 something.
We call them gangs, thugs and idiots.
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Old 02-07-2011, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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We have a lot worse than that in the U.S. Glasgow is rough for Europe, but it's not particularly bad compared to most larger cities in the U.S. In the U.S., however, the bad areas are usually pretty easy to avoid. Not sure how it is in Scotland
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Old 02-07-2011, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Cardiff
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We have a lot worse than that in the U.S. Glasgow is rough for Europe, but it's not particularly bad compared to most larger cities in the U.S. In the U.S., however, the bad areas are usually pretty easy to avoid. Not sure how it is in Scotland

Unfortunately a lot (but no where near all) of bad areas in a lot of cities throughout the UK are next to the city centre (Cardiff for example has Adamsdown and Splott right next door and are both pretty rough but not the worst). Manchester is like a back to front city in the UK where most rough areas are close to the city centre. Generally the majority of rough areas are on the outskirts or edges of the cities but some are right next to the city centres of most UK cities.

Its pretty easy to avoid the rough areas in the UK just like the US but not all of them (hence the ones next to the city centres) and the neds / chavs like to come into the city centre for fighting and causing trouble - that's pretty hard to avoid.
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Old 02-07-2011, 01:45 PM
 
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I think the main difference is that in the UK and Europe, you still have tough white urban gangs, but in the US, most of the tough kids with street cred are non-white. If you watch youtube videos of street fights involving white people, those from Germany, Uk and Ireland are often brutal and involve pounding heads on pavement, etc....most North American caucasian fights involve emo skater dudes hugging and rolling slowly on the grass. Fights involving American black and Latino gangs are often as brutal as white Euro fights however.

Of course, the US has its "Chav"-equivalents which are white wannabe gangbangers and hoodlums...but most are suburban, from wealthy white families and are just putting on a phoney "tough image", whereas many British and Celtic Chavs and Neds as well as skinheads (which are still hude in Europe) are actually from poor urban areas and get into rough soccer-related fights or execute brutal racial-related attacks on immigrants.

The toughest thing about many white Americans is the 12 gauge shotgun they may own or the 9mm they keep locked in their bedside nightstands.
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Old 02-07-2011, 01:49 PM
 
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I think the main difference is that in the UK and Europe, you still have tough white urban gangs, but in the US, most of the tough kids with street cred are non-white. If you watch youtube videos of street fights involving white people, those from Germany, Uk and Ireland are often brutal and involve pounding heads on pavement, etc....most North American caucasian fights involve emo skater dudes hugging and rolling slowly on the grass. Fights involving American black and Latino gangs are often as brutal as white Euro fights however.

Of course, the US has its "Chav"-equivalents which are white wannabe gangbangers and hoodlums...but most are suburban, from wealthy white families and are just putting on a phoney "tough image", whereas many British and Celtic Chavs and Neds as well as skinheads (which are still hude in Europe) are actually from poor urban areas and get into rough soccer-related fights or execute brutal racial-related attacks on immigrants.

The toughest thing about many white Americans is the 12 gauge shotgun they may own or the 9mm they keep locked in their bedside nightstands.
Whats an emo? pardon my ignorance.
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Old 02-07-2011, 02:01 PM
 
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generally, "emo" is a term that describes "emotional-themed punk rock"...but the emo scene familiar to most Americans this century is more like "emotional-themed pop-rock"....fans of such music often wear their hair dyed black, and swept to one side, and boys tend to wear tight jens designed for women. The "anorexic-look" has also become part of their style.

Modern emo culture may glorify suicide and constant whining over the miniscule details of teen life.

Emos are often seen as wimpy, whiney, weak, as well as possibly homosexual. Emos differ from Goths in that emos often embrace more childish, light-hearted cultural elements such as hugging Teddy bears, playing old super mario games, retro converse sneakers and general childish nonsence, rather than the quasi-Satanic, horror-influenced, industrial rock-heavy culture of the Goth clique

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