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Old 05-31-2011, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Cincinnati (Norwood)
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The governors of all Great Lakes states, along with the US Federal Government and Canada laid out pretty strict laws over 50 years ago that NO water may be removed from the Great Lakes basin. Basically if you take water from any of the Great Lakes, your city/town has to physically be within the natural drainage basin for the area. That way when you use the water and return it to the system it stays within the lakes themselves.

At this point though, no one is allowed to sell or divert any water. You'd have to have permission from each of the Great Lakes governors, as well as Canada and the US. That's never going to happen.
Thank you for such a comprehensive and reassuring comment concerning the protection of the Great Lakes water shed. I wasn't aware that such agreements have been so long-standing.
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Old 06-05-2011, 10:56 PM
 
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Minneapolis isn't located on a Great Lake (or close to one), and Detroit is between lakes. Maybe you included them because Minnesota touches on a small part of Lake Superior, and Detroit is in Michigan, which is surrounded by Great Lakes?
I think most of the water systems here in the Twin Cities are fed by underground springs. I know Saint Paul water comes from an underground spring and is stored in a few reservoir lakes just north of the city and from there it flows through a chain of lakes into the city before going through purifying systems.
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Old 06-08-2011, 05:48 AM
 
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Ever since the drought of 2007-2008, every list wants to include Atlanta, as though we're living in some arid region. The Atlanta region receives more rainfall than most major metropolitan areas, at anywhere from 45-55 inches of rain annually, depending on where you live.

Lake Lanier is close to full pool. We also draw from Lake Allatoona, which is at full pool. The Chattahoochee River is also a source of water. We have a new reservoir on the north side of town. I'm uncertain of the amount of water it'll provide.

The only issue with Atlanta's water supply is the large population of the region and the fact that the Army Corps of Engineers thinks that Alabama and Florida have a right to water from a lake in our state, when both of those states have more reservoirs than Georgia, and in closer proximity to the areas where they claim the water is needed.
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Old 06-08-2011, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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And The Great Lakes states can't afford to be wasteful with their water either.
Nobody can afford to be wasteful with water.
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Old 06-09-2011, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Downtown Seattle
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Two cities in Arid-zona made the list, no surprise there. Much of Arid-zona would be completely uninhabitable if not for the CAP and air-conditioning. Phoenix and Tucson wouldn't even exist as we know it if not for those luxuries. Wildfires are destroying a good chunk of the state's forests thanks to the extreme dryness that many people seem to find attractive for some odd reason- must be the baked brains from all the searing sun and heat. With CAP water running low because of reduced water in the Colorado River I wouldn't be surprised if there are water shortages in the near future. Sad.
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Old 06-09-2011, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Surprise, AZ
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Two cities in Arid-zona made the list, no surprise there. Much of Arid-zona would be completely uninhabitable if not for the CAP and air-conditioning. Phoenix and Tucson wouldn't even exist as we know it if not for those luxuries. Wildfires are destroying a good chunk of the state's forests thanks to the extreme dryness that many people seem to find attractive for some odd reason- must be the baked brains from all the searing sun and heat. With CAP water running low because of reduced water in the Colorado River I wouldn't be surprised if there are water shortages in the near future. Sad.
LOL...

Can you tell me how long people have been living in the area now known as AZ, as well as how they did they farming?

Can you also post information about the different water sources besides CAP that provide for those in Phoenix and AZ? What percentage of water sources in AZ is CAP? Also, information about swamp coolers.

Also, I'd be interested in learning who uses the most water in AZ...people or farms.

Lastly, I'd like to know how long forest fires have been occuring in AZ.

Thanks!
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Old 06-09-2011, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Downtown Seattle
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LOL...

Can you tell me how long people have been living in the area now known as AZ, as well as how they did they farming?

Can you also post information about the different water sources besides CAP that provide for those in Phoenix and AZ? What percentage of water sources in AZ is CAP? Also, information about swamp coolers.

Also, I'd be interested in learning who uses the most water in AZ...people or farms.

Lastly, I'd like to know how long forest fires have been occuring in AZ.

Thanks!
People have been living in what is known as Arizona for thousands of years. The Arizona of long ago was a far cry from the Arizona of today. For one thing what population existed was very scant and was mostly nomadic. Humans have evolved and became accustomed to modern conveniences like air-conditioned homes and water that doesn't require digging to find a well. Think about it- Phoenix, Tucson, and Las Vegas would barely be settlements on a map if it these conveniences didn't exist. Phoenix likely wouldn't have anywhere near 4 million people if it wasn't for the CAP. But modern man has played a part in turning a once-beautiful state into a catastrophic mess. The natural beauty is trashed and wildfires are raging out of control destroying the pristine pine forests. Forest fires occur on occasion but none of them have been raging infernos like the ones of late. Look it up- the largest wildfires in the state all happened in the last 10 years and were human-caused. Arid-zona is too dry to be inhabited like it is. The virtually-rainless climate combined with the stupidity of many people that live there are a deadly mix. Think you have seen the last of these outrageous wildfires? Think water problems are a myth? This is only the beginning.
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Old 06-09-2011, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Surprise, AZ
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People have been living in what is known as Arizona for thousands of years. The Arizona of long ago was a far cry from the Arizona of today. For one thing what population existed was very scant and was mostly nomadic. Humans have evolved and became accustomed to modern conveniences like air-conditioned homes and water that doesn't require digging to find a well. Think about it- Phoenix, Tucson, and Las Vegas would barely be settlements on a map if it these conveniences didn't exist. Phoenix likely wouldn't have anywhere near 4 million people if it wasn't for the CAP. But modern man has played a part in turning a once-beautiful state into a catastrophic mess. The natural beauty is trashed and wildfires are raging out of control destroying the pristine pine forests. Forest fires occur on occasion but none of them have been raging infernos like the ones of late. Look it up- the largest wildfires in the state all happened in the last 10 years and were human-caused. Arid-zona is too dry to be inhabited like it is. The virtually-rainless climate combined with the stupidity of many people that live there are a deadly mix. Think you have seen the last of these outrageous wildfires? Think water problems are a myth? This is only the beginning.
Hey genius, the Central Arizona Project (CAP) construction began in 1973 and wasn't even completed until 1993. You didn't even finish answering my questions. All AZ water sources? Percentage of usage by municipalities, farming? Swamp coolers...etc?
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Old 06-09-2011, 08:50 PM
 
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People are suprised that water is tight when you build a city in the friggin desert?
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Old 06-10-2011, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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People have been living in what is known as Arizona for thousands of years. The Arizona of long ago was a far cry from the Arizona of today. For one thing what population existed was very scant and was mostly nomadic. Humans have evolved and became accustomed to modern conveniences like air-conditioned homes and water that doesn't require digging to find a well. Think about it- Phoenix, Tucson, and Las Vegas would barely be settlements on a map if it these conveniences didn't exist. Phoenix likely wouldn't have anywhere near 4 million people if it wasn't for the CAP. But modern man has played a part in turning a once-beautiful state into a catastrophic mess. The natural beauty is trashed and wildfires are raging out of control destroying the pristine pine forests. Forest fires occur on occasion but none of them have been raging infernos like the ones of late. Look it up- the largest wildfires in the state all happened in the last 10 years and were human-caused. Arid-zona is too dry to be inhabited like it is. The virtually-rainless climate combined with the stupidity of many people that live there are a deadly mix. Think you have seen the last of these outrageous wildfires? Think water problems are a myth? This is only the beginning.
Exactly!

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Hey genius, the Central Arizona Project (CAP) construction began in 1973 and wasn't even completed until 1993. You didn't even finish answering my questions. All AZ water sources? Percentage of usage by municipalities, farming? Swamp coolers...etc?
It doesn't matter who uses what. There is a water shortage in Arizona. That's the bottom line!
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