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Old 09-05-2011, 11:21 AM
 
Location: A Yankee in northeast TN
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Also don't forget that many cities are seeing huge increases in Hispanic growth that isdisplacing the residents of many once black neighborhoods as we see in New York, LA, Chicago, Detroit and others I assume. So some places it's a decline in actual numbers, others just a decline in share of the overall population.
Number of 'majority minority' US cities grows-Brookings | Reuters
Somebody posted a link to this yesterday and it kind of fits with this topic.

There's a nice little interactive map that lets you see the change over a few decades.
Interactive map: 30 years of census data - The Washington Post
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Old 09-05-2011, 11:24 AM
 
Location: DFW Texas
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I'll tell you why............

in the 60s & 70s blacks moved in, ran the whites out, tore up everything they could, brought in crime and other bad elements, and then blamed the whites for it all happening......

Fast forward to the 2000s & 2010s...... living in the city is "cool" again, and since the presence of the blacks ran down property values, the whites and hispanics have bought up property, ran out the blacks, fixed up the neighborhoods, reduced crime, and made city living "desirable" again.
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Old 09-05-2011, 11:35 AM
 
Location: San Francisco
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In my city is gentrification and cost of living. The black population is less than half what it was in 1970. Many have moved to less expensive, less dense places like Vallejo, Antioch, Stockton, Tracy and Sacramento.
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Old 09-05-2011, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Southwest Suburbs
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I don't know about other cities, but in Chicago the blacks are moving to some of the inner ring suburbs, which are now more affordable due to the crap economy. Don't think that those homes/apts. they leave behind on the southside will be filling up with affluent upstanding citizens anytime soon.
I think it has more to do with black people fleeing from high crime on the south and westside than being pushed out by gentrification because a large swath of the south and westside remain the same as it was 11 years ago; a few actually got worse and a few gained more black people. I believe the black people that did move from the southside migrated to mainly the south burbs. The south suburban area(Calumet, Thornton, Bloom, Rich, and parts of Bremen Township) has a black majority(55-62%), which sort of makes it the Prince George County of Chicago or the Midwest. There are some bad areas here but also well off black people in South Holland, Country Club Hills, Homewood, Flossmoor, Matteson, Olympia Fields and Lynwood.
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Old 09-05-2011, 12:27 PM
 
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I'll tell you why............

in the 60s & 70s blacks moved in, ran the whites out, tore up everything they could, brought in crime and other bad elements, and then blamed the whites for it all happening......

Fast forward to the 2000s & 2010s...... living in the city is "cool" again, and since the presence of the blacks ran down property values, the whites and hispanics have bought up property, ran out the blacks, fixed up the neighborhoods, reduced crime, and made city living "desirable" again.

Blacks brought in crime and other bad elements in the 60's and 70's? That's interesting since the first Great Migration began in 1910 and the second Great Migration began in 1940.

The emigration of blacks from the south had been going on for 50 years and was largely over by the 60's.

The real problem was that in the 60's and 70's the decent blue-collar jobs started to leave the industrial cities which had large concentrations of blacks. They were replaced by low-paying service jobs.

Add in failed social welfare polices that incentivized families to break up and "Urban Renewal" which consisted of arbitrarily leveling black neighborhoods that fell into a very broad category of "slum", and you have a recipe for failed inner cities.

If the roles were reversed and white people were the ones in the inner cities and blacks had fled to the suburbs, the outcome in the inner city would be the same. Entrenched poverty, high crime and drugs.
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Old 09-05-2011, 03:19 PM
 
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I'll tell you why............

in the 60s & 70s blacks moved in, ran the whites out, tore up everything they could, brought in crime and other bad elements, and then blamed the whites for it all happening......
There were Black neighborhoods in cities before the 60's and 70's and that didn't "run Whites out." What happened in many cities is that these more traditional neighborhoods were removed via policy decisions (urban renewal, establishment of the interstate system, etc.) and housing projects replaced them, which resulted in dense pockets of concentrated poverty, coupled with some really shortsighted and misinformed social policies, that led to increases in crime.

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Fast forward to the 2000s & 2010s...... living in the city is "cool" again, and since the presence of the blacks ran down property values, the whites and hispanics have bought up property, ran out the blacks, fixed up the neighborhoods, reduced crime, and made city living "desirable" again.
Not sure about Hispanics, but people should realize that it's really only relatively small, specific groups that are driving gentrification: gays, yuppies, DINKs, empty nesters, etc. The biggest share of the population--families, particularly younger families--still opt for the suburbs by far and this cuts across racial lines, increasingly for Blacks within the past decade or two.
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Old 09-05-2011, 03:42 PM
 
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I would say it has to do with the rising economic affluence of the black population which has increased steadily. As they gain economic power they want the same things most Americans want which might be a nice house with a yard & good schools so they leave the inner cities for the suburbs.
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Old 09-06-2011, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Trieste
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I think that, save California, where they've been driven out by Latinos, the cities wich Blacks are fleeing are the same any others are fleein...
that is to say the Rust Belt, bad weather, lack of jobs, high taxation, heavy utilities bill, what could you expect?
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Old 09-06-2011, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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I'll tell you why............

in the 60s & 70s blacks moved in, ran the whites out
Dont be ridiculous.

White Flight began in the 1950s with the proliferation of suburbs. It had less to do with Black people as much as it did with wanting a bigger house with a large yard.
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Old 09-06-2011, 10:45 AM
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Location: Oakland
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I'll tell you why............

in the 60s & 70s blacks moved in, ran the whites out, tore up everything they could, brought in crime and other bad elements, and then blamed the whites for it all happening......

Fast forward to the 2000s & 2010s...... living in the city is "cool" again, and since the presence of the blacks ran down property values, the whites and hispanics have bought up property, ran out the blacks, fixed up the neighborhoods, reduced crime, and made city living "desirable" again.
Actually it was more like white flight due to racism, and the subsequent racist neglect of the new black neighborhoods that caused them to decay. White people were not the victims...
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