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Unread 11-09-2011, 12:02 AM
 
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You can make the argument that it's geographically Mid-Atlantic, but culturally? It's Southern. Deep South? No(although certain parts of NC are indistinguishable from the Deep South). Southern? Undeniably, no debate really.
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Unread 11-09-2011, 02:10 PM
 
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North Carolina is a Southern State although not a Deep South state.
Agreed! born and raised in NC all 28 years.
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Unread 11-09-2011, 02:56 PM
 
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You can make the argument that it's geographically Mid-Atlantic.

I'd love to hear your opinion on how it could be geographically mid-atlantic. Considering that the middle point between the northern tip of maine and southern tip of florida falls right in the center of virginia, not nc.
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Unread 11-09-2011, 03:06 PM
 
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I'd love to hear your opinion on how it could be geographically mid-atlantic. Considering that the middle point between the northern tip of maine and southern tip of florida falls right in the center of virginia, not nc.


You are right. It is in the South geographically and otherwise.
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Unread 11-09-2011, 04:26 PM
 
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I'd love to hear your opinion on how it could be geographically mid-atlantic. Considering that the middle point between the northern tip of maine and southern tip of florida falls right in the center of virginia, not nc.
That's not really an accurate way to gauge geographic "mid-Atlanticness," as you'd have to consider the northern tip of the Maine coast and not simply the northernmost part of Maine. Also, there's a general radius to consider that goes beyond the exact midpoint. For instance, a person who is age 44-46 is considered to be in their mid-40's; it goes a little beyond strictly being 45 years and 6 months old. So from a pure geographic standpoint, because NC borders VA and is within a certain radius, it might also be considered mid-Atlantic. However, that's not historically been how mid-Atlantic states have been designated anyway so it's kind of a moot point.
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Unread 11-10-2011, 02:32 AM
 
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That's not really an accurate way to gauge geographic "mid-Atlanticness," as you'd have to consider the northern tip of the Maine coast and not simply the northernmost part of Maine. Also, there's a general radius to consider that goes beyond the exact midpoint. For instance, a person who is age 44-46 is considered to be in their mid-40's; it goes a little beyond strictly being 45 years and 6 months old. So from a pure geographic standpoint, because NC borders VA and is within a certain radius, it might also be considered mid-Atlantic. However, that's not historically been how mid-Atlantic states have been designated anyway so it's kind of a moot point.

I meant the northernmost tip of Maine itself, I never stated the northern point of Maine's coast. If NC borders VA and you call it mid-atlantic because of that, are we going to call SC mid-atlantic also because it borders NC?

I don't know, my view is a quite literal one, I only see one mid-atlantic state, which is virginia, because its quite literally smack dab in the middle, anything north of it is northeast, and anything south of it is southeast, thats just my opinion on it. When I look at north carolina on a map I definitely see it in the southeast, and not the middle.
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Unread 11-10-2011, 04:37 AM
 
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NC is the south, end of story
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Unread 11-10-2011, 12:54 PM
 
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I think that MyBadBrah and Mutiny77 have good points but my thing is to me you have to play all sides of the fence. The problem with including NC in the Mid atlantic is Tennesee and if the deep south is SC and GA then how is NC midatlantic? Thats why I think that first of all the midatlantic has to have a starting point and an ending. It can't just be in one place then pick back up in another place. Thats why I say it should start in NOVA because as a region NOVA feels like DC and MD for the most part and MD feels like PA and NJ in some parts. In NC northeastern NC though hugely influenced by VA there is still plenty of south in northeastern NC and parts of the outerbanks but if there is any chance of NC being midatlantic it HAS! to start in northeastern NC or otherwise it doesn't work and the midatlantic should just go back to being what it originally was before the region started including southern states. The original midatlantic is NJ NY DE & PA. Now those mid atlantic states are widely considered North
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Unread 11-10-2011, 01:24 PM
 
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I think that MyBadBrah and Mutiny77 have good points but my thing is to me you have to play all sides of the fence. The problem with including NC in the Mid atlantic is Tennesee and if the deep south is SC and GA then how is NC midatlantic? Thats why I think that first of all the midatlantic has to have a starting point and an ending. It can't just be in one place then pick back up in another place. Thats why I say it should start in NOVA because as a region NOVA feels like DC and MD for the most part and MD feels like PA and NJ in some parts. In NC northeastern NC though hugely influenced by VA there is still plenty of south in northeastern NC and parts of the outerbanks but if there is any chance of NC being midatlantic it HAS! to start in northeastern NC or otherwise it doesn't work and the midatlantic should just go back to being what it originally was before the region started including southern states. The original midatlantic is NJ NY DE & PA. Now those mid atlantic states are widely considered North
Most of Coastal VA has Southern in it.
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Unread 11-10-2011, 02:08 PM
 
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