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View Poll Results: What is an urban lake?
any lake in any city limit 13 50.00%
A lake with urban development coming right up to the shores 10 38.46%
Something else that I will go into pains to explain below 3 11.54%
Voters: 26. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-30-2011, 01:42 AM
 
Location: Cleveland bound with MPLS in the rear-view
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When I think of urban lakes, I think of Minneapolis; Bellevue, WA; or Chicago. I think even Lake Minnetonka (a very non-dense suburb of Minneapolis) is even an urban lake depending how you look at it. But I think a true urban lake is within city limits and connects almost seemlessly with the surrounding neighborhoods/streets. Most lakes are treated like a resort with a ring road around them with luxury homes dotting the shoreline. A true urban lake is a lake that "happens to be in the middle of the city".
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Old 09-30-2011, 01:43 AM
 
Location: Cleveland bound with MPLS in the rear-view
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So Htown, you were so certain of how correct you were that you had to start a whole other thread to seek validation? Hmm.

For those posters here who are unaware of the little game they've been sucked into, this thread is a spin-off of a conversation in another thread where the OP read far too much into the word "urban" as it was used to describe White Rock Lake's role in the fabric of Dallas.

I, along with another poster, were simply referring to WR as being an urban lake as it is nestled in the heart of the city of Dallas, as opposed to Houston's lakes which are in the far flung burbs. WRL is (a) less than 10 miles from downtown (b) in the backyard of numerous historic and walkable neighborhoods/districts (c) is directly connected by rail, with its own station on DART's Blue Line.

But the OP would not agree to it being an urban lake, because it wasn't completely surrounded by office buildings and other mid/highrises, or whatever. Simply put, he/she just wanted to split hairs to make their argument seem less fallible.

I'm actually interested to hear others' take on this.
Not surpised in the least. In this case, I am not aware of any lake in the whole state of Texas that is truly urban. Hell, I don't think there are any real lakes in Texas in the 1st place, so why the debate?
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Old 09-30-2011, 01:49 AM
 
Location: The Magnolia City
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Not surpised in the least. In this case, I am not aware of any lake in the whole state of Texas that is truly urban. Hell, I don't think there are any real lakes in Texas in the 1st place, so why the debate?
It actually surprised me that it's turned into this big of a debate over one little word.

Southern cities in general aren't as built up as their northern counterparts. That is a given. But WR is still an urban lake in that it is a part of the city's core. What is that you aren't surprised about?

And yes Texas does have a real lake.

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Old 09-30-2011, 01:50 AM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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Not surpised in the least. In this case, I am not aware of any lake in the whole state of Texas that is truly urban. Hell, I don't think there are any real lakes in Texas in the 1st place, so why the debate?
Lake Conroe and Sabine Lake that Texas shares with Louisiana.
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Old 09-30-2011, 02:02 AM
 
Location: The Magnolia City
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Lake Conroe and Sabine Lake that Texas shares with Louisiana.
Well actually, Sabine is an estuary and Lake Conroe is a resevoir. I believe the only natural lake is the Caddo, which straddles the border in northeastern Texas.
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Old 09-30-2011, 02:08 AM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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Lake Merritt, though no doubt beautiful, is also an urban estuary and not a lake.
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Old 09-30-2011, 06:00 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh (via Chicago, via Pittsburgh)
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Definitely a lake within a city limit. I wouldn't consider Lake Ontario, Erie, or Michigan an urban lake
but they have urban lakefronts
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Old 09-30-2011, 06:24 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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A lake with development on it. All of it doesn't necessarily need to be developed. Lake Michigan is and urban lake near Chicago. Lake Pontchartrain. City Park and University Lakes in LSU.
Lake Michigan, or any of the Great Lakes are NOT urban lakes. Parts of them are urban, but the vast majority of them are not.


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but they have urban lakefronts
^^This^^ Urban lakefront, or urban beaches, but that doesn't make the whole lake urban in nature.
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Old 09-30-2011, 09:43 AM
 
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I'd say an urban lake is a lake with urban development all the way around. Not just cute lakehouses ringing a lake either - that would still be rural since in most cases you walk out those houses backyards and you're in the country.

A lake with highways, large buildings and an urban city spreading out from all sides.

I'd say Chicago is an urban area on a lake - but Lake Michigan is far more rural than urban.
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Old 09-30-2011, 12:59 PM
 
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Onondaga Lake next to Syracuse is very close to being a purely urban lake.

Smells like it, too...
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