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We have no control over the opinion of others and we can't tell them what to think. That is their God-given and constitutionally guaranteed right.
However, we can show them through our example that it is indeed possible for people of opposing views(and indeed colors) to cohabite in teh same neighborhoods together and indeed be cordial and respectful of each other.
I think those are the kinds of seeds that need to be planted in order to one day harvest fruits of mutual respect.
I dont like the words 'tolerance' and 'acceptance' because they've been played out to death. Furthermore they insinuate that one group of people needs to permission of another in order to exist and that shouldnt be the aim or objective of people-to be 'accepted' or 'tolerated' of others. No, just respect me. That's better than being put up with.
I'm only using Woodfield as an example. I do think it's the "main" shopping center for Chicagoland and attracts people from even the city, especially in winter. I've always found it strange how diverse Chicago is, but how the black population is still generally segregated.
Hispanics can be found in large numbers from Waukegan to Aurora, to Hammond, IN. It's not that way with blacks for some reason in Chicagoland.
All the towns you named and their immediate areas have visible black populations.
IMO segregation in the Chicagoland area is not as bad as it was even 10 yrs ago but still has a long way to go.
As far as The most racist city, everyewhere has racist people. Sounds cliche but it's the truth
The real question Should be "why" such racial divides. Some say it's because they were raised to believe such a way. My rebutal "you were raised to believe in Santa,a Toothfairy,and the Easter bunny". I understand being bias to a degree simply like cheering on a favorite team or your city. Downright Racism is ugly and generally propetuated by all parties envovled. Milwaukee most divided city and Pennsylvania within top five states.
Chicago is the most segregated of our major cities. See link below. I think for mid sized and smaller cities, Milwaukee and Detroit were labeled segregated, but that was an outdated method and a university study showed that at least Milwaukee was far more integrated, 16th most integrated in America. Here is an actual map of Chicago showing segregation.
This seems to be a trend played out in many places. African Americans are more on the margins of society compared to other ethnic groups.
Even on the west coast the most affluent areas are typically white and Asian. You do not see many African Americans. It troubles me that African Americans continue to be at the bottom of the socioeconomic ladder.
You've obviously have never heard of View Park-Windsor Hills, Ladera Heights, Baldwin Hills and Baldwin Village in the L.A. area then. There are others on the West Coast too.
We have no control over the opinion of others and we can't tell them what to think. That is their God-given and constitutionally guaranteed right.
However, we can show them through our example that it is indeed possible for people of opposing views(and indeed colors) to cohabitate in the same neighborhoods together and indeed be cordial and respectful of each other.
I think those are the kinds of seeds that need to be planted in order to one day harvest fruits of mutual respect.
I don't like the words 'tolerance' and 'acceptance' because they've been played out to death. Furthermore they insinuate that one group of people needs to permission of another in order to exist and that shouldn't be the aim or objective of people-to be 'accepted' or 'tolerated' of others. No, just respect me. That's better than being put up with.
I agree with your statement wholeheartedly. I feel as though the Dallas urban neighborhood I live in exhibits this principle. (only with a very few exceptions) And, it makes a great neighborhood.
I agree with you, justme02. That John Wiley Price things just tears me up. I truly do not like this guy...I've tried to see his perspective but he muddles whatever message he may have had initially and turns it into a racial mess. And with all the charges coming his way, with no reasonable explanations (not yet anyway), I don't see that it will be favorable for him. GOOD. But, I surely don't want to see our city ripped apart like the Rodney King thing. When it gets that bad, people rarely can see all sides and the separation gets wider. Yowza!
Whether they find John Wiley Price guilty or not, he has created such a dark cloud over his reputation by his inability to be open and forthright. I believe if the evidence proves his guilt that the city will remain generally calm.
He has exhibited "racism" in a public forum during a televised meeting which was very blatant and inexcusable. I believe that he lives business life is a way that he views his white counterparts, whether legitimate or not. The cards don't appear in his favor so far.
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People today still complain St. Louis is still too segregated. Been that way since the civil war as Stl is a border city.
St. Louis is not a border city...not after the Civil War anyway, and even then, it supported Lincoln in the 1860 election and sent far more troops to the Union. Going there today, it's pretty easy to tell it is Midwestern. It unequivocally identifies as Midwestern. Very little Southernness to it today. And in any case, I actually think it's less segregated than some cities. Richmond Heights, Webster Groves, and Maplewood all have a significant black population. North County is fairly mixed in race as well. THe city does remain largely black. You're also bending the term to mean something it no longer does.
The most racist people I know are my relatives in Chicago, that is why I voted for it. The southern part of my family seems much more comfortable being around people of other races.
Unlike the south, cities like Chicago and Detroit were never forced to face their issues.
I agree with this statement. I have lived in Michigan all my life and I believe the midwest is by far the most racist and most segregated region in America. Detroit, Chicago and Milwalkee are all very segregated and have alot of race issues. These cities have a long history of race incidents and even riots. The midwest in general has a long history of Klan activity and the existance of "sundown towns" . Here in Michigan metro Detroit is divided along racial lines. The city of Detroit is black and impoverished, and the suburbs are almost exclusivily white and middle to upper class. There is alot of hatred between the city and the suburbs, lots of blame on both sides for why things are the way they are today. Rural areas of Michigan, (which by far is most of the state) resent Detroit and its problems deeply, and really want nothing to do with the problems down there. In fact I would take it a step further and say those of us in rural Michigan are angry whith the negative attention Detroit has brought to our state, and with the wasted tax dollars that are associated with failed urban development programs and generational welfare in that dead city. Because of this political and social situation black people and white people really do not interact that much here, in fact in many areas they never see each other at all. Other midwest states have similar situations with thier large cities, and the way they are set up on racial lines.
The southern states in contrast have alot of integration, and both races have lived with each other for centuries. People think of the south and think of the unrest of the civil rights era, but for the most part black people and white people get along just fine there. Neighborhoods in general are much more mixed, and members of both races interact on a daily basis. In the midwest that is just not the case. Here in the midwest we are likely decades if not a century away from the level of integration the south has today.
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